Shunyata's view on ground.

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by For The Love of Music

I posted all this on my thread the "The Front End Digital Foundation”,

https://www.audioaficionado.org/show...ital+front+end

I would never say "Draw Dropping" if I did not mean it, nor any other type of similar statements, and this same "Jaw Dropping" gain was also made on grounding rods to the sub panel, but that’s a different topic all together. System grounding is vital, I was surprised how much noise resides in a system when you think there is no issue!

In short, it was easily transparent that a greater sense of resolution with more timbre around instruments and voices with no masking or removal of sound when compared to previous (I only use reference tracks I am familiar with and have made notes on to double check myself). The music was much more present drawing you in enough were you wold lose track of time. The grounded switch also feeds CAT5 around the house where Apple TV is networked in, and it became blacker as well aside from other benefits of LPS modems and such. When I added the iFi groundhog in addition to the 6 gauge to the switch, I gained blackness, but lost song detail and pulled it.

For something like $12.00 of solid 6 gauge copper you can by at Lowes or Home Depot and about 20 minutes of time it was a VICTORY in the war of audio expense and will add it surpassed the results of the Nordost QKore grounding system in my system. Plus it addressed the hobby factor, it was something I was able to do myself from scratch, blended in with the look making it rewarding.

These little things proved a gain, with no ones name on it but mine sharing with the forum members. If you read my equipment and do the math, you will understand my point.

Happy Listening!

I made up some grounding cables based on some of the concepts I've been seeing from Entreq for connecting/grounding and also from your posts, FTLOM. I put them on two of my components, the preamp and DAC. I used a Sienoc Phono RCA Male plugs to AV Screw Terminals male RCA plug. I put a green silicone insulated copper wire into the negative (-) terminal only, and ran the other end of wire to the grounding post of my phono stage. I put one of these on an unsed RCA jack on my DAC and preamp, respectively.

I was quite surprised at the character and degree of improvement this simple little tweak provided. Your observation, "In short, it was easily transparent that a greater sense of resolution with more timbre around instruments and voices with no masking or removal of sound when compared to previous <snip> The music was much more present drawing you in enough were you wold lose track of time." is fully consistent with what I heard, also.

Perhaps not to the magnitude you describe, but clearly discernable, and most importantly, it made the musical presentation quieter, more open, more natural and organic-sounding, and thus, more enjoyable and engaging.

I recently spent a couple of hours re-arranging my audio rack the weekend before last, very much along the lines that Caelin has described. When I had everything hooked up, I listened for a bit without these grounding cables, and the system sounded good, but when I put them back in for a second time, the presentation clearly improved in the manner described above.

Along these lines, I've been thinking of either getting one of the Entreq boxes or making up my own.

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by DonBattles

So I've been gathering parts no make a grounding system (box) and would like to fill the box with something to weight it down. I was thinking about a electronic potting epoxy but would like to tap our members shoulders for other suggestions.

Interesting, I've been thinking about making up the same type of box, Don.

I was also thinking about filling with...soil (dirt). After, that's what a grounding rod is placed in...earth.

AFAIK, that is also what Entreq uses along with some amount of silver mixed in, probably to improve conductivity. I was going to use a wooden box, too.

Not sure how electronic potting epoxy would work...

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

Interesting, I've been thinking about making up the same type of box, Don.

I was also thinking about filling with...soil (dirt). After, that's what a grounding rod is placed in...earth.

AFAIK, that is also what Entreq uses along with some amount of silver mixed in, probably to improve conductivity. I was going to use a wooden box, too.

Not sure how electronic potting epoxy would work...

Problem is you need to make it in the Forest in Sweden.

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

Problem is you need to make it in the Forest in Sweden.

Ha ha! Too true!

[The Sandman]

Each of my mono amps has its own dedicated line and 2000 T… so 2 lines, 2 2000 T’s.

My front end is on a separate dedicated line with an Everest 8000.

What’s the best way to ground my amps… a grounding cable from each amp to the Everest?

Should the 2000T’s be grounded to the Everest?