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Old 03-25-2014, 11:34 AM
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Folks,

Looking for some advice. Sent my out of warranty F113 to JL Audio. Talked to Barry who told me that as of 6 weeks ago, they had started a new program where instead of charging for new parts they would actually fix them. Told me I was in luck. I was out of the country for a couple of weeks and then a buddy of mine followed up with him and he told him the same thing, and that the fix would not come out to more than 1,000, with shipping.

I called about the status now that i got back. no answer. I called again today and they routed me to someone who said I'd get a call back in 10 minutes. A while later that same person calls me back, screaming at me that I should stop calling me. It was barry. He went all Cujo on me telling me that it was not possible that the could have been routed to him (it was) and to stop calling me (i have not called him since the RA went through, i was in Singapore!). 5 minutes later I get a call telling me the fix is 1500, and it is all new parts. WTF?

Sounds to me like Barry took his frustrations out on me and went back on the whole "we'll fix, not charge for new board" deal. He had told me that they had accumulated truckfulls full of parts they were fixing to bring the prices down; which was a source of concern for people outside of the warranty period, like me. Apparently, because a call was routed to him, he is giving me the full price.

Very disappointed, looking for pointers.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:39 AM
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Old 03-25-2014, 01:44 PM
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Folks, story developing. Masterlou himself called me and is trying to get this positively resolved with JL Audio. As if there weren't enough reasons to love this place, here's one more!
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:13 PM
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And they will listen to Ivan.

Considering how good the JL product is, I'm shocked you've had that experience nycjazz. Just goes to show that sometimes there is an inverse correlation between quality of product and quality of service. :\
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:00 PM
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Marcos... Your sub is being repaired with new parts, and I saved you a few hundred too!

I'll send you a PM
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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Old 03-25-2014, 04:10 PM
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Marcos... Your sub is being repaired with new parts, and I saved you a few hundred too!

I'll send you a PM
Very nice of you to help. Way to go Ivan!
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Folks,

Looking for some advice. Sent my out of warranty F113 to JL Audio. Talked to Barry who told me that as of 6 weeks ago, they had started a new program where instead of charging for new parts they would actually fix them. Told me I was in luck. I was out of the country for a couple of weeks and then a buddy of mine followed up with him and he told him the same thing, and that the fix would not come out to more than 1,000, with shipping.

I called about the status now that i got back. no answer. I called again today and they routed me to someone who said I'd get a call back in 10 minutes. A while later that same person calls me back, screaming at me that I should stop calling me. It was barry. He went all Cujo on me telling me that it was not possible that the could have been routed to him (it was) and to stop calling me (i have not called him since the RA went through, i was in Singapore!). 5 minutes later I get a call telling me the fix is 1500, and it is all new parts. WTF?

Sounds to me like Barry took his frustrations out on me and went back on the whole "we'll fix, not charge for new board" deal. He had told me that they had accumulated truckfulls full of parts they were fixing to bring the prices down; which was a source of concern for people outside of the warranty period, like me. Apparently, because a call was routed to him, he is giving me the full price.

Very disappointed, looking for pointers.
Sorry to hear about your problem. Maybe JL has become too successful and feels they don't need to be "customer friendly". I hope that is not the case. In todays competitive environment that would be an a very poor business mentality. It was great that Ivan was able to help out BUT they(JL) should do the right thing on their own.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:56 PM
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How old is your F113 nycjazz? Rather curious what the source of the problem is. Been eying the F212, but this situation and level of support makes me pause a bit.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:35 PM
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If you deal with the Master stuff FLAT gets done. he is the best of the best!

One more reason why I love this place
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Marcos... Your sub is being repaired with new parts, and I saved you a few hundred too!

I'll send you a PM


Thats Excellent help/service!!!!! Awesome Ivan!
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