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Old 07-01-2011, 09:52 AM
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Default Sonographes on the way

When my bedroom-system Rotel RB 970BX unexpectedly blew its left channel a couple of days ago, I decided to replace it rather than have it repaired. I started looking for a decent but inexpensive power amp and happened on an eBay auction bundling a C-J Sonographe SC25 preamp and SA250 amp. While I didn't absolutely need a preamp right away (though I"ll shortly be outfitting my wife's home office system), the 250 looked too good to pass up if I could get it at the right price. So I bid at the last minute. Long story short: The pair should arrive next week.

I've read that the 250 has a laid-back top end, but otherwise should be a good match for the Paradigm stand-mount SE-1's it will be driving. I'm looking forward to finding out.
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Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-501, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable.

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Old 07-01-2011, 09:59 AM
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Jim.......I would expect the C-J gear to be a nice step up from Rotel. Looking forward to you impressions.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:54 AM
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Yeah, Dan, I expect it will be a step up, too. I'll post my impressions after I've given the new arrivals a good listen.
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Bedroom: Aurender N150, TEAC UD-505 AKM version (to be replaced by inbound Bryston BDA-3), EMIA Cu Elmaformer passive line stage, conrad-johnson MF2500, Paradigm Studio 20 v5. Shunyata Delta D6, Altaira CG hub. Shunyata Alpha XC, Delta NR v2, Alpha USB, Alpha and Venom CGC/SGC. Wireworld Eclipse 8 interconnect & speaker cables. Stillpoints footers, Butcher Block Acoustics maple platforms. Stillpoints and GIK acoustic panels.

Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-501, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable.

Living-Dining Room: Windows 11 Laptop/JRiver 29, Oppo BD-83, TEAC UD-501 DAC, SOTA Sapphire TT, Graham Slee Era Gold V, Ortofon 2M Black, McIntosh MR-77, c-j Sonographe SC-25, c-j MF2500, Paradigm SE-3. Wireworld 8 IC, Blue Jeans SC. Shunyata Hydra 8 v.2, Shunyata Delta NR, Venom NR. GIK 244 bass & scatter-plate panels.
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:43 AM
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Please do, my guess is you'll be very pleased!
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Old 07-02-2011, 05:07 PM
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let me know please about Sonographe
are they real CJ or McCormack ?
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Old 07-02-2011, 06:30 PM
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let me know please about Sonographe
are they real CJ or McCormack ?
Philippe, they were introduced as "entry-level" products by Conrad-Johnson and included at least one turntable model well as preamps and amps. Save for a historical note, there's no mention of them on the current C-J Web page. The electronics were all solid state, and I understand that for a time the Sonographe SA250 was rated "Class B" by Stereophile.

If you look carefully at the photo below you'll note the "by conrad-johnson" notation on the lower right portion of the faceplates.

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Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-501, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable.

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Philippe, they were introduced as "entry-level" products by Conrad-Johnson and included at least one turntable model well as preamps and amps. Save for a historical note, there's no mention of them on the current C-J Web page. The electronics were all solid state, and I understand that for a time the Sonographe SA250 was rated "Class B" by Stereophile.

If you look carefully at the photo below you'll note the "by conrad-johnson" notation on the lower right portion of the faceplates.

Thanks Jim copy that
The cj DNA is obvious the pre looks like the PV10, same faceplate and knobs
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c-j also had the "motif" brand for solid-state components, in the mid 80's, I believe.
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c-j also had the "motif" brand for solid-state components, in the mid 80's, I believe.
Yeah, John, that was their first marketed foray into solid state, a projected high-end offering that disappeared around 1991 after about a six-year run.
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Bedroom: Aurender N150, TEAC UD-505 AKM version (to be replaced by inbound Bryston BDA-3), EMIA Cu Elmaformer passive line stage, conrad-johnson MF2500, Paradigm Studio 20 v5. Shunyata Delta D6, Altaira CG hub. Shunyata Alpha XC, Delta NR v2, Alpha USB, Alpha and Venom CGC/SGC. Wireworld Eclipse 8 interconnect & speaker cables. Stillpoints footers, Butcher Block Acoustics maple platforms. Stillpoints and GIK acoustic panels.

Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-501, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable.

Living-Dining Room: Windows 11 Laptop/JRiver 29, Oppo BD-83, TEAC UD-501 DAC, SOTA Sapphire TT, Graham Slee Era Gold V, Ortofon 2M Black, McIntosh MR-77, c-j Sonographe SC-25, c-j MF2500, Paradigm SE-3. Wireworld 8 IC, Blue Jeans SC. Shunyata Hydra 8 v.2, Shunyata Delta NR, Venom NR. GIK 244 bass & scatter-plate panels.
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My guess is Sonographe disappeared right around the time C-J acquired McCormack; no need for two solid-state product lines.

Jim, let us know what you think when you get your Sonographes. My guess is that you wil be very pleased; the SS stuff C-J did was also very, very good.
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