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I've never found a 95db+ efficient speaker, for less than $20K, which I like. I like great imaging and definition. The higher efficiency speakers I've heard are too forward through the midrange or roll off lows or roll off highs or just don't produce the detailed soundstage that I love. Not sure I've seen any of the vintage or low-to-mid priced high efficiency speakers do much about time alignment, edge diffraction, and some (open baffle) produce a lot of sound off of the back which reflects off your walls and destroys imaging. I find most of them to be fatiguing.
I have heard some high-end speakers which sound fantastic and which are efficient. Like a pair of $60K Von Schweikerts which were 95dB. Some of the Focal Utopia series are up around 94-95dB. Magico Q7 around 94dB. There are others. |
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Good to know. This just encourages me to keep working with my own DIY designs. As you noted, I too am not a big fan of the squawky midrange that some of the lower cost higher efficiency speakers produce. Been playing the little Totem Model 1s speakers all day on the DH KT150 amp. As long as you are sitting in front of the speakers with a little volume, they sound great at their reported 87db. The sound stage tends to stay more between the two speakers an goes pretty far back on these with this tube amp. When I power them with the larger amps, sound stage goes further to the right and left of each speaker. My larger custom speakers are around 91.5-92db And they do sound different in just the total volume of output and sound stage is wider and a bit more forward, but not in your face. I may see if I can just demo/borrow and test ome other speakers in the 92-93b sensitivity range and see what changes. Did not plan on using my larger custom speakers with the little DH amp permanently, but it does sound better. |
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Omega has a trial period so that may be your best bet. Too bad we are all not in the same neighborhood. There is no substitute for listening. I'm tempted by the Altecs but really don't need to open another can of worms. They are 602 D's 8 ohm 101db/w. Asking $900 for 2 pairs of them in what appear to be home made boxes. The big issue is that the tweeter diaphragm is unobtanium. Last edited by FloridaBoy; 02-04-2018 at 12:08 PM. |
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I agree, maybe Lewis over at Omega might do some loaners but they are all the way out in CT. I'd have to be certain before trying that. I've got a few builds I wanna go back and re-try this year anyhow so may do that first. Right now I'm still kind of amazed how this little DH KT150 amp sounds with my custom designed DEC-AMT28 speakers. It will drive them, but going back to my big V12R amp tonight to compare what I'm missing, if anything. Last edited by decooney; 02-04-2018 at 12:13 PM. |
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Yeah, the Altec's are a project I don't need. Sanity prevails.
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Speakers are so subjective. What is a grating noise to one person is nirvana to another. And each is so dependent upon the room they are in and how they are placed within it.
Consider the KEF LS50. A lot of people love it, it has garnered reviews almost unheard of for its price point. Others think it is highly overrated and hate it. And as it is inefficient, it is not well thought of by the flea watt crowd. |
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For the price of a pair of LS50’s you could get a pair of Omega Super 3HO Monitors or maybe even a pair of Compact Alnico Monitors. They are both the same size (a little larger than the LS50) and are both very (95 dB) efficient.
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How is the low-end bass weight on the Omega Super 3HO Monitors? I've never heard them. An audio friend mentioned to me how some of these ultra light weight and super fast drivers used are very efficient, however with very little mass to the driver itself they can sound quite lean at times without the absolute proper cabinet design and crossover. I'd be guessing to say they make up the difference somehow in cabinet design or exact in-room placement too. If they are ultra room sensitive, that could be a challenge for me but these speakers do seem to have a following from you guys. Thanks for the note. |
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