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Old 08-27-2011, 08:55 AM
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On a final note, I want to say that you are such a valuable asset to this forum. Your insight into all things audio (or not) and writing prowess are but a couple of reasons this forum is head and shoulders above other audio forums out there.
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Old 08-27-2011, 10:21 AM
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Dan, thanks for yet another finely written review. I am glad that you were able to tweak your system ever so much closer to your own audio bliss. I was happy, but not surprised, that you mentioned the price difference between these two cables. I wonder how much difference there is between cables of different manufacturers at similar price points? Wireworld vs. Cardas, vs. Transparent, etc...for example. Maybe they just have different sonic signatures.

I have been looking at upgrading my speaker cables and have interest in the 8TC as well as Wireworld Equinox6. I imagine that one might have a more difficult time finding differences between these two cables. For me, in the end it comes down to synergy. I will most likely go with the Wireworld since I have other cables from them in my system. I will say that your review makes it easier to be persuaded in my decision.

On a final note, I want to say that you are such a valuable asset to this forum. Your insight into all things audio (or not) and writing prowess are but a couple of reasons this forum is head and shoulders above other audio forums out there.


Doug.......Thank you so much. Your kind words are much appreciated.

With regard to similar priced cables from other companies, it has been my experience that performance differences can be small or large, and are not necessarily governed by the price. I have used several different manufacturer's interconnects from companies like Cardas, Canare, Tributaries, and Wireworld. Every cable had its particular sonic signature. I settled on the Tributaries Silver Series for years, and was quite happy until I made some comparisons to Wireworld Silver Eclipse 6.0 interconnects. The Tributaries compared favorably to Wireworld, and I still use them in my home theater system, but the Wireworld Silver Eclipse offers better transparency in my opinion, not to mention they are three times the cost of the Tributaries Silver Series. Ultimately it comes down to what type of sound piques your involvement with your sound system and the music you enjoy, and what price point you hope to maintain.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:39 PM
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BRAVO Dan!... A very nice, thorough and well written shout out.... ... WW sales.. will certainly go up after that...
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:51 PM
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Ivan.......Thank you. It was my pleasure to be able to perform this shootout. Honestly, I was hoping to hear less of a difference between the Kimber 8TC and the Silver Eclipse speaker cables so I could justify sticking with my trusted Kimber's. Now that I have tasted the fruit I am hooked.
And reading your assessment, it seems doubtful the newer 12TC with its heavier gauge would make much of a difference either, since its improvements over 8TC are said to be incremental, not transformational.
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I have listened to several complex recordings, although nothing of the classical orchestra genre. Playing the CD of Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band - XXL, the different horn sections, piano, guitar and drums were no challenge for the Silver Eclipse speaker cables. Dan Siegel Project - Fables is a complex recording with many unusual wind, acoustic and percussion instruments from around the world arranged on many of the CD's tracks. The Silver Eclipse performed as an invisible conduit for the music, completely transparent, and thrilling to hear.
Dan...Those will certainly do. And, as others have commented, your SE's are likely to get even more "invisible"--sounds like you've captured the essence of it in that one word--with additional playing time.

I have a Monheit disc around here somewhere and will have to put it on. Love her voice.
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Reading the review is even more pleasurable when you already own them. The reassurance factor is quite comforting.
I agree with Randy about the 200 hours. For the first 50, I thought they were a bit bright and somewhat thin. By 100 I was impressed and at 200 it was nothing but music. Thanks for the great review Dan.
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Howard, I totally agree with your comments. I felt that same feeling of satistfaction when Dan reviewed his 601's and C2300. Dan in his speaker cable shoot out has also interduced me to some new music to check out. I really like how he points out to the reader what part of the music to listen for and what it should sound like when everything is right. Dan I didn't price compare the two cables and I didn't really known how your shootout would turn out. Thanks for a great review. Now I have to figure out how to come up with a pair of Wireworld cables.

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Old 08-27-2011, 08:34 PM
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And reading your assessment, it seems doubtful the newer 12TC with its heavier gauge would make much of a difference either, since its improvements over 8TC are said to be incremental, not transformational.
Charles.......The Kimber 8TC has an aggregate 9 gauge for each of the positive and negative leads. The 12TC has an aggregate 8 gauge for each of the positive and negative leads, so I suspect other than a miniscule lower cable resistance, the 12TC will essentially perform in the same ballpark.
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Howard, I totally agree with your comments. I felt that same feeling of satistfaction when Dan reviewed his 601's and C2300. Dan in his speaker cable shoot out has also interduced me to some new music to check out. I really like how he points out to the reader what part of the music to listen for and what it should sound like when everything is right. Dan I didn't price compare the two cables and I didn't really known how your shootout would turn out. Thanks for a great review. Now I have to figure out how to come up with a pair of Wirewrould cables.

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Dan, thank you for a very enjoyable review and read. It's always interesting to learn more about products which intrigue you, and you put us in the listening seat! Well done with sharing the bump you got in your system.
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