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Old 10-21-2019, 12:41 PM
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I'm honestly not too surprised, the Krell HRC and the FPB series were truly state of the art and would drive anything you threw at it. If there were some modern component upgrades like you said, that may have been the trick. Enjoy 'em.

- Buck
Thank you Buck! That's what my new experience tells me. Actually I'v thought of it for quite a while, and then I had the opportunity to by the old Krell units in very good condition I did it with no hesitation just out of curiosity. I wonder what it takes to do much better nowadays. Probably d'Agostinos new products and some others but old Krell is probably still really hard to beat.
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Old 10-22-2019, 05:54 AM
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I can tell you from personal experience that the FPB amps run very hot because they are class A 100%. They will heat the room. In terms of sound quality they have tremendous presence and resolution without any harshness or hardness. I remember the sound well because I lived with a FPB 700 for many years. The amp finally broke and had to go back to Krell for a complete overhaul. When it returned it supplied me with many more years of faithful service. I suspect the Dag sound is very similar. Many like it, I being one of them.
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Old 10-22-2019, 08:09 AM
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Wow, that's quite a surprise!

Don't sell the Gryphon yet though.

You might get seller's remorse...


Apexorca,

Sage advise from my friend Bart!
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Old 10-27-2019, 05:24 AM
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Sage advise from my friend Bart!

I will cmarin. I love Gryphons pre amps and power amps. They are among the best due to my likings.

I'll probably use it in another system.
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I can tell you from personal experience that the FPB amps run very hot because they are class A 100%. They will heat the room. In terms of sound quality they have tremendous presence and resolution without any harshness or hardness. I remember the sound well because I lived with a FPB 700 for many years. The amp finally broke and had to go back to Krell for a complete overhaul. When it returned it supplied me with many more years of faithful service. I suspect the Dag sound is very similar. Many like it, I being one of them.
I think, maybe we have similar taste of how music is best reproduced.

As I live i Sweden and FPB run hot is most of the year a good thing. It's heating the house.
Even in the summer it's not a big problem i my house. I usually not listening that much in the summer because of other hobbies outside. But I can imagine if you live in an area with hot weather it can be a big problem.

My only concern is that's an old amp. It's completely reconditioned with better specified components, especially capacitors and some others. Even better High- end components then when they were new, But of course there are some parts that are old. So I still I worry a bit about it and hope it will function flawless at least another 10 years.
What do you guys think?
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:15 AM
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I think, maybe we have similar taste of how music is best reproduced.

As I live i Sweden and FPB run hot is most of the year a good thing. It's heating the house.
Even in the summer it's not a big problem i my house. I usually not listening that much in the summer because of other hobbies outside. But I can imagine if you live in an area with hot weather it can be a big problem.

My only concern is that's an old amp. It's completely reconditioned with better specified components, especially capacitors and some others. Even better High- end components then when they were new, But of course there are some parts that are old. So I still I worry a bit about it and hope it will function flawless at least another 10 years.
What do you guys think?
I think you have great amps, totally competitive with anything on the market. My refurbished 700 was working great when I sold it. I can't remember why. I'm sure it had old parts. The main difference between Mac and the FPB 700 is the tremendous sense of presence especially with your HRC pre. Don't ever sell your pre. It is synergistic with your mono amps. There is zero harshness or hardness with your amps and pre. The drawback is heat and energy expenditure and of course 20 amp lines are a must. My only suggestion is that at some point you look into a Master Reference amp. To this day it is probably the best amp on the planet. Keep your eye out and with your contacts and resources you might be able to locate one. Get it refurbished then find another. You will have gear like no one else if you do this. You have a tremendous system
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I think you have great amps, totally competitive with anything on the market. My refurbished 700 was working great when I sold it. I can't remember why. I'm sure it had old parts. The main difference between Mac and the FPB 700 is the tremendous sense of presence especially with your HRC pre. Don't ever sell your pre. It is synergistic with your mono amps. There is zero harshness or hardness with your amps and pre. The drawback is heat and energy expenditure and of course 20 amp lines are a must. My only suggestion is that at some point you look into a Master Reference amp. To this day it is probably the best amp on the planet. Keep your eye out and with your contacts and resources you might be able to locate one. Get it refurbished then find another. You will have gear like no one else if you do this. You have a tremendous system
Thanks for your opinion Charles.
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:13 PM
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Since I'm changing pre- and power-amps I have to remake my HiFi-rack and reorganaze.
I think it's looking nice and cool to have monoblocks on the floor. It's even nicer to have a stand for them.

Thera are som brands that makes good and nice monoblock-stands.

I had one very special stand that is custom made in mind. It's not possible to by anymore and I know a store that uses this one at their demonstrations. So I asked if I could buy them. They were not for sale, but I was lucky. I had to buy them.

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It's some very unique rock. It's just possible to find in the south of Norway.







With Krell...





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Since I'm changing pre- and power-amps I have to remake my HiFi-rack and reorganaze.

I think it's looking nice and cool to have monoblocks on the floor. It's even nicer to have a stand for them.



Thera are som brands that makes good and nice monoblock-stands.



I had one very special stand that is custom made in mind. It's not possible to by anymore and I know a store that uses this one at their demonstrations. So I asked if I could buy them. They were not for sale, but I was lucky. I had to buy them.



Pics...



It's some very unique rock. It's just possible to find in the south of Norway.















With Krell...













Beautiful «Larvikitt» stone from south east of Norway. I grew up in the area [emoji41]
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Beautiful «Larvikitt» stone from south east of Norway. I grew up in the area [emoji41]
Hehe. Right! Very special and unique rock.
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