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Old 10-15-2018, 08:08 PM
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Serge, I don't know if I should laugh, cry or puke at the above. At one point you're making fun of the snobbery of fine watches and then you need to remind us of where you once 'resided' ........ sad.

For the record, my Grandfather, a watchmaker, schooled at Hamilton in Lancaster, Pa. taught me to respect and appreciate fine watches.

As for your comment above regarding 'quartz', my Great Grandfathers 1888 Waltham Appleton Tracy still keeps excellent time, with it's original movement, lets see one of your quartz movements do that after 130 years !
My "residence" has not changed one bit. I can still indulge in pretty much any luxury I want thank you. The point I was making is that I also had my phase of the "appreciation" of the Swiss manufacturing and in retrospect perhaps got carried away into a small obsession by it but no longer am interested in such rather pointless pursuits. I think your Grandfather would be puking at the greed of the Swiss today.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:14 PM
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My "residence" has not changed one bit. I can still indulge in pretty much any luxury I want thank you.
good for you .........

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I think your Grandfather would be puking at the greed of the Swiss today.
LMAO .........here we are , on a 'High-End Audio' forum poking fun at 'greed' ! sadly it's become the norm, in so many circles ......
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:20 PM
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LMAO .........here we are , on a 'High-End Audio' forum poking fun at 'greed' ! sadly it's become the norm, in so many circles ......
There is no more "value" in an Audio Note Gaku On for $300k as there is an $800k tourbillon. A Swiss watchmaker makes under $100k in yearly wages, way under in most cases. Even if it takes a year to put one together as they claim, that's $100k plus what a few thousand dollars more in "raw" materials. The rest of the $800k is divided up between the manufacturer and 30-40% dealer margin for selling you that tourbillon in white gloves. That's the problem with our civilization and always has been. Greed, power and control and ultimately it will end badly as we all know too well.
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For the record Serge, I don't own nor have desire to own a tourbillon.
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For the record Serge, I don't own nor have desire to own a tourbillon.
Me neither. Not this one and certainly not one for much more. I posted this because I thought someone may find it interesting enough to purchase for fun for under a grand. A tourbillon is supposed to be the holy grail of watches.
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I posted this because I thought someone may find it interesting enough to purchase for fun for under a grand. A tourbillon is supposed to be the holy grail of watches.
Understood .........
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:10 AM
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Watch making by the way is long ways from what it used to be. The high level of automation and CNC lathes/milling machines making small parts is the norm. You are not going to see the old fashioned wheel cutting by hand for many reasons. So the final assembly by the men dressed in white lab coats with an eyepiece loupe putting the finishing touches on the outrageously expensive watches in the Swiss "cartel" is a great illusion of the old artesian craft.



$850,000 for a complicated watch... Oh please...






Agreed. But, my Rolex is +1 second since July 19th. That says something for Rolex engineering, manufacturing, and quality control.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:19 AM
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Agreed. But, my Rolex is +1 second since July 19th. That says something for Rolex engineering, manufacturing, and quality control.
My 18 year old Rolex is nowhere near as accurate as yours but I have kept if for sentimental reasons. I really do not like to wear watches daily anyway. The iPhone tells me precisely what time it is anytime I need to know.
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Agreed. But, my Rolex is +1 second since July 19th. That says something for Rolex engineering, manufacturing, and quality control.
that's incredible, I have never heard let alone seen that kind of accuracy, amazing !
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Agreed. But, my Rolex is +1 second since July 19th. That says something for Rolex engineering, manufacturing, and quality control.
Wow! That’s amazing. My Rolex loses a minute a month. I’m not very happy with its most recent $1,000 service by Rolex.
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