AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Audio & Video > Pre-Amps & Amplifiers

Pre-Amps & Amplifiers All Brands Welcome

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 12-05-2017, 03:51 PM
rushca01's Avatar
rushca01 rushca01 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: IN
Posts: 159
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHC1 View Post
Smart decision.
Well..no I'm second guessing myself between the c2500 and c50. I have read there is enough improvement between the c2300 and c2500 (outside the inclusion of the DAC) to seriously consider the c2500.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 12-05-2017, 04:23 PM
Jerome W's Avatar
Jerome W Jerome W is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,240
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Msegal View Post
I really enjoyed your post.
I have also thought of a stereo in photographic terms.
My analysis was more of enlarging the negative, yes I’m that old.

Take a MC cartridge with an output of 0.5 mV and amplify it many times until the amplifier is putting out 20 volts or about 1000X.

The clarity of this “picture “ will depend upon all the magnifying stages. The earlier the distortion the larger the impact upon the picture.

The key regarding preamplifiers, as mentioned earlier is that the preamp will buffer the signal from the source (offering a very high impedance) and output a very low impedance signal to the amplifier. This requires a much more robust output stage then is typically found in a source component. Look at how much real estate is used in a typical preamplifier output stage compared to that if a source.

I have done the passive preamp, no preamp and high end preamp dance. I will always use a preamp in the future even if I don’t need switching capabilities.

Mike S.


I agree fully !
__________________
There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats
Albert Schweitzer
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 12-05-2017, 04:30 PM
PHC1 PHC1 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pa
Posts: 23,609
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rushca01 View Post
Well..no I'm second guessing myself between the c2500 and c50. I have read there is enough improvement between the c2300 and c2500 (outside the inclusion of the DAC) to seriously consider the c2500.
If you can step up to the C2500 and that is what you want then you should do it once and do it right. It will cost less than upgrading to it eventually.

The smartest/most economical approach always was and always will be to buy as much as you can stretch your budget for that dream piece and enjoying it for a long time. Upgrades along the way will cost much more (unless you buy preowned)
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 12-05-2017, 07:47 PM
ehoove's Avatar
ehoove ehoove is offline
Old & New - Carpe Diem
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 5,187
Default

Thanks for the interesting read Gentlemen! A lot to think about before offering my opinion on this.
Regards,
Jim
__________________
It's all about the Music, but I sure like the way my gear makes it come alive!
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 12-01-2021, 01:11 PM
Grasshopper's Avatar
Grasshopper Grasshopper is offline
Aspiring Audiophile
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: My House
Posts: 1,263
Default

AA Family. I was browsing old threads and I really enjoyed the topic of this one.

I'm now hot on the trail for a re-amplifier upgrade, and it all seems like Voodoo to me. I am a believer that Pr-amplification is necessary, and improves the sound. Mainly curious about the "how" is the pre-amp the heart and soul of the system, and a major influencer on what we hear.

In other words, as I shop for a D'agostino Momentum HD preamp (and thanks to this forum, I have some good leads on where to get a used one), how/why does that sound so much better than say a Audio Research REF6?

I'm all for buying good gear...just curious (ahead of spending nice car money on a preamp) how this works-
__________________
Main > Aurender N10/N100 / Antipodes K50 > Aries Cerat Kassandra mk2 - Playback Designs Dream DAC > D'agostino Momentum HD > PS Audio P10 > D'Agostino S250 > Sonus Faber Aida / REL S812 Six Pack + 4 JL Audio F113 Fathoms > B&W Signature HTM > Anthem Statement D2v > Mcintosh MC205 > Focal 1000 (side surrounds) > Bryston TIW (rear surrounds)

Secondary System > Aurender N100h> AMR777SE > D'agostino Momentum Integrated > Wilson Sasha DAW
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:42 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2023 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Accuphase - Soulution
Accuphase - Soulution
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video