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Cable Fraud, Is It Real?
You read the warnings about fraud when it comes to cables from manufacturers web-sites, is it too much to ask a cable manufacturer to validate serial numbers?
Still wonder who really is making cables in a fraudulent way, and how many of these do they really sell to such a small community or is it a game of fear to always feed the machine? Thoughts? |
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It seems real enough, particularly with high priced cables that are popular in Asia like Siltech. Asia is a huge high end audio market. Do you have experience where manufacturers refuse to validate serial numbers?
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NordOst will not do that anymore , they told me. As there are too many asking, also according to NordOst.
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That's odd - I would think they'd be grateful that people are authenticating their products. That's in the maunufacturer's best interest. What's the value of a serial number if it can't be referenced?
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I can only say i think the same as you do, but as i asked for them if they would, i was told no as they dont have enough time to do so. Also seems kind of odd to me as i would suppose a bigger company like them would have serial numbers on computer where it wouldn't take them long to look up.
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Unfortunately, it is a real problem. They just emulate the outer appearance of a cable. The innards are absolute crap. In some cases, they don’t try all that hard to do a good job on the outside. This is one of the reasons we no longer use printed heatshrink for labeling. it is far to easy to duplicate. There is actually a high-end speaker in China “designed by Caelin Gabriel”. For the record, I have never designed a speaker.
Of more concern to me are the people ripping off technology and applying to their own product lines. These people we prosecute. We have even received Chinese patents so the we can prosecute Chinese manufacturers. We receive many requests to validate authenticity of our products weekly, We are very happy to provide this information. Usually all it takes is a closeup photo or the serial number.
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Caelin Gabriel President Shunyata Research |
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I would like to say that Shunyata has been wonderful about authenticating cables. They have authenticated all the power and signal cables I bought used. I emailed them pictures and serial number and they were quick to reply. They also have excellent customer service. I broke the end of a Venom USB cable I bought new a couple years ago. They were very quick again to reply and give me an RMA number.
I have heard that Audioquest is one of the brands that you have to be careful about fakes. I would be very leery of any cable coming from China or Asia. |
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Caelin.......I am pleased to read you prosecute counterfeiters of your products. These thieves deserve to be unmasked and made to suffer the consequences of their illegal activities. Intellectual property and proprietary designs are your rightful creations. Those who seek to steal from you deserve the full force of the law brought down upon them. I commend your actions and wish other manufacturers would be more willing to share your concern and efforts.
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Dan STUDIO - McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MR88, Aurender N10, Esoteric K-01X, Shunyata Sigma spdif digital cable, Sonos Connect, PurePower 2000, Stillpoints, Furutech Flux 50, Michell Gyro SE, Michell HR Power Supply, SME 309, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Wireworld, Sonus faber Amati Anniversario LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113 VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A |
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Caelin Gabriel President Shunyata Research |
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