AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Manufacturers Forums > Conrad-Johnson

Conrad-Johnson It just sounds right

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-24-2011, 05:58 PM
repman's Avatar
repman repman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 400
Default Trying a set of KT-120 in my premier 11-A

I just got an email from Ed answering one I sent him regarding the KT-120 tubes and if they are compatible with a Premier 11-A amp.
Ed replied back that it was always drilled into him to only recommend the tubes that came originally with the amp from the factory. He said he was told that he could make an exception with the KT- 120 and he could recommend it as a replacement for the original 6550 power tube however the tube cage would not fit because of the height of the KT-120.
I just ordered a quad of these to try, has anyone here used these in a
11-A ?
I will give my impressions of this amp with this tube after burn in.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-24-2011, 09:46 PM
turntable's Avatar
turntable turntable is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Downunder in Sydney
Posts: 1,774
Default

Look forward to your impressions
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-27-2011, 09:07 AM
repman's Avatar
repman repman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 400
Default

Well the KT-120's arrived yesterday , installed, warmed up and biased. I set the cd on repeat and let it play on low levels for about 4 hours as I finished my workday in my home office.

My initial impressions are it has definitely helped the bottom end in fact I had to lower the sub level because it was too much bass. It seems as if the power output has increased as I can hear louder volumes at my normal volume control settings. There is a slight high end glare that I have never heard before with any 6550 or KT-88 tube that I hope will go away as the tubes age in. My overall impressions are very favorable man are these tubes big ( physical size) I am anxious to hear them at 50-100 hours.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-28-2011, 02:30 PM
repman's Avatar
repman repman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 400
Default

I took a shot of the KT-120 tung/sol compared to a 6550 Tung/sol

She's a monster!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 120 vs 6550.jpg (53.2 KB, 65 views)

Last edited by repman; 10-28-2011 at 02:46 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-28-2011, 03:00 PM
jimtranr's Avatar
jimtranr jimtranr is online now
Senior Member

 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Corvallis, OR
Posts: 1,605
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by repman View Post
I took a shot of the KT-120 tung/sol compared to a 6550 Tung/sol

She's a monster!
Your photo explains the tube cage fit issue.
__________________
Jim



Bedroom: Aurender N150, Bryston BDA-3, EMIA Cu Elmaformer passive line stage, conrad-johnson MF2500, Paradigm Studio 20 v5. Shunyata Delta D6, Altaira CG hub. Shunyata Alpha XC, Delta NR v2, Alpha USB, Alpha and Venom CGC/SGC. Wireworld Eclipse 8 interconnect & speaker cables. Stillpoints footers, Butcher Block Acoustics maple platforms. Stillpoints and GIK acoustic panels.

Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-505 AKM version, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable.

Living-Dining Room: Windows 11 Laptop/JRiver 29, Oppo BD-83, TEAC UD-501 DAC, SOTA Sapphire TT, Graham Slee Era Gold V, Ortofon 2M Black, McIntosh MR-77, c-j Sonographe SC-25, c-j MF2500, Paradigm SE-3. Wireworld 8 IC, Blue Jeans SC. Shunyata Hydra 8 v.2, Shunyata Delta NR, Venom NR. GIK 244 bass & scatter-plate panels.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-28-2011, 05:23 PM
repman's Avatar
repman repman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 400
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimtranr View Post
Your photo explains the tube cage fit issue.
Jim, they are huge compared to the 6550's they have been running all day starting to sound sweet.

Last edited by repman; 10-28-2011 at 05:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-29-2011, 04:54 PM
Rafale's Avatar
Rafale Rafale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tours Loire Valley France
Posts: 2,031
Default

As long as could find SED I shall not pass on KT120, expensive and furthermore it is really not attractive, too oversized imo...the problem with SED in the USA is a legal problem concerning the brand and its retailer's network, they are always made to St Petersbourg to my knowledge
The German retailers are furnished and I just come to receive from it...
__________________
Philippe

l
LP12SE,urika phonostage,radikal power supply, dynavector XV-1s,conrad-johnson GAT and LP275M, Sonus Faber Elipsa,yter/naim/Linn cables, vibex, finite elemente
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-29-2011, 05:04 PM
Coppy's Avatar
Coppy Coppy is offline
On Florida's Slow Coast
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sarasota, Florida
Posts: 616
Default

Philippe,

Your English is way better than my French (thank you) but I'm confused about your last post. What is the USA problem and are you saying you would not change to the KT120s? Maybe I'm not sure what an SED is. My 6550s are fine with maybe 800 hours on them so no need to replace unless there is an opportunity for really better sound. There are plenty of 6550s available here from CJD and tube retailers when I need them.

Bob

Last edited by Coppy; 10-29-2011 at 05:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-29-2011, 05:52 PM
Rafale's Avatar
Rafale Rafale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tours Loire Valley France
Posts: 2,031
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coppy View Post
Philippe,

Your English is way better than my French (thank you) but I'm confused about your last post. What is the USA problem and are you saying you would not change to the KT120s? Maybe I'm not sure what an SED is. My 6550s are fine with maybe 800 hours on them so no need to replace unless there is an opportunity for really better sound. There are plenty of 6550s available here from CJD and tube retailers when I need them.

Bob
Bob, it is complicated, there are problems enter New Sensor (USA) and PM components (UK ) concerning the distribution of the St Petersburg's 6550 Winged C in the USA
SED Tubes - Vacuum Tubes Manufactured in St Petersburg, Russia
PM Components Ltd - World Leaders in Vacuum Tube Supply
Tube-Shop.com - Vacuum Tubes for Hi-Fi, Guitar and Radio amplifiers
__________________
Philippe

l
LP12SE,urika phonostage,radikal power supply, dynavector XV-1s,conrad-johnson GAT and LP275M, Sonus Faber Elipsa,yter/naim/Linn cables, vibex, finite elemente
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-29-2011, 10:30 PM
Coppy's Avatar
Coppy Coppy is offline
On Florida's Slow Coast
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sarasota, Florida
Posts: 616
Default

Philippe,

Thanks for the links. Looks like The SEDs are currently available in the US only from the UK distributor. I guess that's okay as long as the tube shop is a reliable firm that stands behind their product. Is it your impression that the SEDs are the best brand of 6550s? I note that the tube store also sells Shuggies (Chinese) that I've heard are good. I guess all this explains why CJ didn't want to replace my 6550s when I had it over there for a circuit upgrade last spring.

Also, you would not try the KT120s, is that correct? The amps would surely not be very attractive with those tubes sticking out of them.

Bob
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:39 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2023 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Accuphase - Soulution
Accuphase - Soulution
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video