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Old 12-31-2013, 03:07 AM
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Found on Marten's website, here is a bit of an explanation for this new speaker and its price :

"Our goal was simple. To design the best speaker in the world. With the Coltrane Supreme 2, we’ve arrived at where we want to be. Our ultimate design.

To create the ultimate speaker, we needed an absolute reference point. We recorded our own album, ‘Supreme Sessions.’ The result? With eyes closed, the playback of the recording is identical to the live performance. The live feeling of the music, played by the musicians at the point of the recording, is reproduced in every detail.

Simply, the Coltrane Supreme 2 has a sound quality so genuine that distinguishing between recorded music and reality is not possible. High Fidelity in its essence.

In fulfilling our dream of creating the best speaker in the world, no corners have been cut. No compromises made. Every single element is the best, period."
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:12 AM
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A bargain then
For the Graal, I would even say that's rather inexpensive !
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:23 AM
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User manual http://www.marten.se/marketing/manua...e_2_manual.pdf
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Old 02-07-2014, 09:40 PM
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I've actually heard the Supremes at CES and more importantly, I heard them at the new owners house here in Southern California. The amps used were Marten's own amplifiers, preamp was the EAR 912, digital sources were an Acute III cd player and the MSB digital stack (The $6k Acute III sounded much more analog and natural compared to the $85k MSB Stack which was a DAC IV Select, UMT Plus Transport. DAC IV Select has the FemtoSecond Galaxy Clock in it), top of the line HRS rack for the electronics and HRS amp stands for the Marten amps.

I was helping the EAR distributor and owner dial in the speaker and finally spike the speakers (which made a massive difference in imaging, a standing bass wave and overall coherency). Joe Kubala of Kubala Sosna cables joined us later in the day and we finally celebrated with a toast when all was dialed in to our taste

I took some iphone pics during the tweaking...I'll post them in a bit. It was a GREAT day and an experience I am thankful for.

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Old 02-08-2014, 03:23 AM
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So were they good?
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:05 AM
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And how did they sound?
Looking forward to the pics.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:29 PM
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Here are the pics

I took this before we figured out exact positioning...the speakers were still on rollers at this point. Even at CES, they were on rollers. The sound is SOOO much better when they are properly spiked.



Finally getting them spiked after much listening and tuning. We used a Wilson Alexandria X2 jack which was EXTREMELY handy, much better than the Marten supplied jack unfortunately



Now this was a pretty big listening room. One side of the room had the Marten Supreme II setup. The other side of the room had the large Acapella horn speakers, the Kuzma Stabi XL with 2 Airline arms (Koetsu stone body and a Transfiguration Orpheus), Ypsilon phono, EAR 912 (yes a second one), Triode monoblocks, all Nordost Odin wiring through the whole system, HRS racks. Sorry Joe Kubala...didn't mean to cut you off in the picture!



The owner also owns 2 pairs of Marten Design Momentos, Marten Coltrane II and Wilson Alexandria X2 Series 2 He is QUITE the enthusiast!
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:06 PM
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So were they good?
They sounded excellent when we started listening. After tweaking them, everyone agreed that the system sounded significantly better from where we started. We played with some room tuning, component vibration control, speaker positioning etc. Made all the difference in the world. The spiking of the speakers removed a bass standing wave that was present before. This was easily the best system I heard in my life at this point...this massive system just disappeared.

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And how did they sound?
Looking forward to the pics.
Pics posted above. The sound...I wouldn't know where to start! Let me try and just rambled off thoughts I feel are relevant.

Pitch perfect, realistic scale, perfect instrument body, tonality and size portrayal. Zero distortion at ANY listening level. No timing issues...no phase issues, warmth when needed, musically blissful, most realistic rendering of an orchestra I've ever heard. Never, ever have I found a system that does almost perfect levels of "rightness". There is always something to critique that a system can do better...not with this one somehow. It CAN use a little bit more depth (which I was getting in the CES 2014 setup). That depth can be gotten by pulling out the speakers more into the room, but instead of 100%, we were getting probably 90%?

This really is just a dream speaker and I'm happy there are people who can make something like this happen. I am more grateful that I got a chance to participate in setting something like this up and listening to it.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:19 AM
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Wow, great pictures.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:16 AM
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Apparently Robert Harley heard the set up , with his own demo discs and proclaimed it the best ever loudspeaker he has heard. One to dream about
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