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Thank you Bob.
The 275CE together with my C2200 have given us many hours of beautiful music. The later it gets the better they sound. Dual would be nice.

Anthony
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hi, guys..iam considering the 275 VI for my 805 D3(max 120wpc @ 8ohm).
Can I ask if any of u had compare using the 275 as a single unit and mono block on a same set up? are there any big differences except of the higher Watts?
I seem to be leaning towards mono set up.


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hi, guys..iam considering the 275 VI for my 805 D3(max 120wpc @ 8ohm). Can I ask if any of u had compare using the 275 as a single unit and mono block on a same set up? are there any big differences except of the higher Watts? I seem to be leaning towards mono set up.

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Howdy Chericelise & Welcome to AA -- your 1st post.

This may help even though the first link doesn't address your specific speakers; but, yes dual MC275's provide more than an additional 150 watts. Some good reading nevertheless.

https://www.audioaficionado.org/show...ght=dual+MC275

Here's another address dual MC275's:

https://www.audioaficionado.org/show...ght=dual+MC275

Best Sir,

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hi, guys..iam considering the 275 VI for my 805 D3(max 120wpc @ 8ohm).
Can I ask if any of u had compare using the 275 as a single unit and mono block on a same set up? are there any big differences except of the higher Watts?
I seem to be leaning towards mono set up.


Thank you.
This is my first post on AAf, I hope it is helpful.
MINI-review: Single 275 IV vs ARC VT 100 II vs 2 275 IV's run in mono.
Speakers: VSA VR 4 jr's
Preamp: ARC SP 8
Sources: vinyl and digital, classical and jazz

A single 275 gives a presentation just in front of the speakers, while the VT 100 steps out towards the listener quite a bit more. The power difference is not really notable; what is notable is the way the VT 100 almost hurls the music at the listener. It is not a very relaxed sound, but it is exciting. The clarity of the VT 100 in the lower midrange and upper bass is very attractive, not matched by the single 275. It achieves this clarity, however, by a slight thinning out of the tonality of the music, though still very attractive. The 275 compensates with that more "saturated" tone that many listeners favor, also very attractive. Advantage: the VT 100 by a slight margin. The low range clarity IMO slightly outpoints the more saturated sound of the single 275.

With two 275's the tables are turned. The two amps bring the image and stage more forward than the single 275, but not so much in your face as the VT 100. Like Goldilock's porridge, it's just right. Others have noted the increase in soundstage clarity and instrumental separation that comes with the second 275. My listening confirms this. That lower midrange and upper bass also become clearer without giving up the denser tone color that the 275 enjoys over the VT 100, even run singly. Advantage: doubled 275's. The added clarity coupled with the deeper tone color IMO outpoints the clear but thinner sound of the VT 100, attractive as it is.
This difference was noted in every kind of music I listened to, especially orchestral music. All three setups give a holographic image, though, the principal difference being where the center of the image is located in terms of soundstage depth.
Other's experiences may differ. I really like the combo of an ARC preamp and the Mac 275's.
By the way, the 275's have Gold Lion KT 88's and EH small tubes, while the VT 100 has winged "C" 6550's and Sovtek 6922's. This may account for some of the difference in sound, but Mac supplies the 275 with KT 88's, while ARC supplies/supplied the VT 100 with 6550's, so I think the units sound like the designers intended, even though both amps will run the other type power tube.
This is just my opinion of course, and I used the VT 100 as a measuring scale for the 275's type of sound. I used the VT 100 many years as my primary amp, but the twin 275's have elbowed it to the side.
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I had an MC275 Mk IV and Antec 19 for a long time, then I upgrade to MC275 LE monoblocks with K2 S9900.
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This is my first post on AAf, I hope it is helpful.
MINI-review: Single 275 IV vs ARC VT 100 II vs 2 275 IV's run in mono.
Speakers: VSA VR 4 jr's
Preamp: ARC SP 8
Sources: vinyl and digital, classical and jazz

A single 275 gives a presentation just in front of the speakers, while the VT 100 steps out towards the listener quite a bit more. The power difference is not really notable; what is notable is the way the VT 100 almost hurls the music at the listener. It is not a very relaxed sound, but it is exciting. The clarity of the VT 100 in the lower midrange and upper bass is very attractive, not matched by the single 275. It achieves this clarity, however, by a slight thinning out of the tonality of the music, though still very attractive. The 275 compensates with that more "saturated" tone that many listeners favor, also very attractive. Advantage: the VT 100 by a slight margin. The low range clarity IMO slightly outpoints the more saturated sound of the single 275.

With two 275's the tables are turned. The two amps bring the image and stage more forward than the single 275, but not so much in your face as the VT 100. Like Goldilock's porridge, it's just right. Others have noted the increase in soundstage clarity and instrumental separation that comes with the second 275. My listening confirms this. That lower midrange and upper bass also become clearer without giving up the denser tone color that the 275 enjoys over the VT 100, even run singly. Advantage: doubled 275's. The added clarity coupled with the deeper tone color IMO outpoints the clear but thinner sound of the VT 100, attractive as it is.
This difference was noted in every kind of music I listened to, especially orchestral music. All three setups give a holographic image, though, the principal difference being where the center of the image is located in terms of soundstage depth.
Other's experiences may differ. I really like the combo of an ARC preamp and the Mac 275's.
By the way, the 275's have Gold Lion KT 88's and EH small tubes, while the VT 100 has winged "C" 6550's and Sovtek 6922's. This may account for some of the difference in sound, but Mac supplies the 275 with KT 88's, while ARC supplies/supplied the VT 100 with 6550's, so I think the units sound like the designers intended, even though both amps will run the other type power tube.
This is just my opinion of course, and I used the VT 100 as a measuring scale for the 275's type of sound. I used the VT 100 many years as my primary amp, but the twin 275's have elbowed it to the side.
Welcome to AA LowIQ (I love your moniker name -- tongue in cheek deal). If you post something stupid, we can't get too harsh with you.

Nice report and observation of the MC275 & classic ARC VT100 II (1996 to 2006 ?? or something like that).

Best Sir,

Bob
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Howdy Chericelise & Welcome to AA -- your 1st post.

This may help even though the first link doesn't address your specific speakers; but, yes dual MC275's provide more than an additional 150 watts. Some good reading nevertheless.

https://www.audioaficionado.org/show...ght=dual+MC275

Here's another address dual MC275's:

https://www.audioaficionado.org/show...ght=dual+MC275

Best Sir,

Bob

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This is my first post on AAf, I hope it is helpful.
MINI-review: Single 275 IV vs ARC VT 100 II vs 2 275 IV's run in mono.
Speakers: VSA VR 4 jr's
Preamp: ARC SP 8
Sources: vinyl and digital, classical and jazz

A single 275 gives a presentation just in front of the speakers, while the VT 100 steps out towards the listener quite a bit more. The power difference is not really notable; what is notable is the way the VT 100 almost hurls the music at the listener. It is not a very relaxed sound, but it is exciting. The clarity of the VT 100 in the lower midrange and upper bass is very attractive, not matched by the single 275. It achieves this clarity, however, by a slight thinning out of the tonality of the music, though still very attractive. The 275 compensates with that more "saturated" tone that many listeners favor, also very attractive. Advantage: the VT 100 by a slight margin. The low range clarity IMO slightly outpoints the more saturated sound of the single 275.

With two 275's the tables are turned. The two amps bring the image and stage more forward than the single 275, but not so much in your face as the VT 100. Like Goldilock's porridge, it's just right. Others have noted the increase in soundstage clarity and instrumental separation that comes with the second 275. My listening confirms this. That lower midrange and upper bass also become clearer without giving up the denser tone color that the 275 enjoys over the VT 100, even run singly. Advantage: doubled 275's. The added clarity coupled with the deeper tone color IMO outpoints the clear but thinner sound of the VT 100, attractive as it is.
This difference was noted in every kind of music I listened to, especially orchestral music. All three setups give a holographic image, though, the principal difference being where the center of the image is located in terms of soundstage depth.
Other's experiences may differ. I really like the combo of an ARC preamp and the Mac 275's.
By the way, the 275's have Gold Lion KT 88's and EH small tubes, while the VT 100 has winged "C" 6550's and Sovtek 6922's. This may account for some of the difference in sound, but Mac supplies the 275 with KT 88's, while ARC supplies/supplied the VT 100 with 6550's, so I think the units sound like the designers intended, even though both amps will run the other type power tube.
This is just my opinion of course, and I used the VT 100 as a measuring scale for the 275's type of sound. I used the VT 100 many years as my primary amp, but the twin 275's have elbowed it to the side.

Thank u and appreciate your detailed feedback.
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