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Old 02-27-2019, 07:13 PM
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Well Serge If you disappear we will know where to look.Those damn aliens or big corporate monsters.Keep up the good work.
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Well Serge If you disappear we will know where to look.Those damn aliens or big corporate monsters.Keep up the good work.
They all have much BIGGER fish to fry. I am not concerned
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Old 02-27-2019, 07:35 PM
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As I posted earlier — "For the future, don’t worry if your beer or wine has glyphosate in it, just be worried on how many you drink of the actual known carcinogen — alcohol."


National Cancer Institute (NCI) —
There is a strong scientific consensus that alcohol drinking can cause several types of cancer (1, 2). In its Report on Carcinogens, the National Toxicology Program of the US Department of Health and Human Services lists consumption of alcoholic beverages as a known human carcinogen.

The evidence indicates that the more alcohol a person drinks—particularly the more alcohol a person drinks regularly over time—the higher his or her risk of developing an alcohol-associated cancer. Even light drinkers (those who have no more than one drink per day) and binge drinkers have a modestly increased risk of some cancers (3–7).


So drink up.............cause alcohol will kill you before glyphosate in beer/wine.

So typical of U.S. PIRG.

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Yep, WWI, WWII, HIV, GMO, Toxic weed killers. Great track record between those two. They will make a great conglomerate and why taint such a perfect record?

The most powerful German economic corporate emporium in the first half of this century was the Interessengemeinschaft Farben or IG Farben, for short. Interessengemeinschaft stands for “Association of Common Interests” and was nothing more than a powerful cartel of BASF, Bayer, Hoechst, and other German chemical and pharmaceutical companies. IG Farben was the single largest donor to the election campaign of Adolph Hitler. One year before Hitler seized power, IG Farben donated 400,000 marks to Hitler and his Nazi party. Accordingly, after Hitler’s seizure of power, IG Farben was the single largest profiteer of the German conquest of the world, the Second World War.

During World War II, IG Farben established a synthetic oil and rubber plant at Auschwitz in order to take advantage of slave labour; the company also conducted drug experiments on live inmates. After the war several company officials were convicted of war crimes (nine being found guilty of plunder and spoliation of property in occupied territory and four being found guilty of imposing slave labour and inhumane treatment on civilians and prisoners of war).

Their tactics, while "evolved", may very well ring the same way in the future looking back to today.
If you want to go down that route, there's plenty of blood to go around - including on the hands of FDR, Neville Chamberlain, IBM (which facilitated Nazi atrocities by furnishing the Third Reich with advanced data/record keeping technology) and The New York Times to name a few. FDR personally denied entry of over 900 Jewish refugees into the US facing certain extermination when Hamburg America Liner captain of the St. Louis tried to help them escape.

Why should any of the above get a free pass? And at what point do you put a period and turn the page?

Putting that aside for the moment, the fact is there almost no such thing as the perfect product. From the cars we drive, to any electrical device, to pastimes of swimming, skiing, etc etc, - and the food we consume there is some element of associated risk. This is something we must accept in order to enjoy the standard of living/prosperity we do. Failure is endemic to the human condition. To try to eliminate all risk at any cost and you will succeed in destroying all human initiative, endeavor and prosperity.

That might be your idea of utopia but it's certainly not mine.

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Ya I know Serge.Maybe some of the common folk of this planet could work out something with the the aliens to clean up some of our larger problems.
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If you want to go down that route, there's plenty of blood to go around - including on the hands of FDR, Neville Chamberlain, IBM (which facilitated Nazi atrocities by furnishing the Third Reich with advanced data/record keeping technology) and The New York Times to name a few. FDR personally denied entry of over 900 Jewish refugees into the US facing certain extermination when Hamburg America Liner captain of the St. Louis tried to help them escape.

Why should any of the above get a free pass? And at what point do you put a period and turn the page?

Putting that aside for the moment, the fact is there almost no such thing as the perfect product. From the cars we drive, to any electrical device, to pastimes of swimming, skiing, etc etc, - and the food we consume there is some element of associated risk. This is something we must accept in order to enjoy the standard of living/prosperity we do. Failure is endemic to the human condition. To try to eliminate all risk at any cost and you will succeed in destroying all human initiative, endeavor and prosperity.

That might be your idea of utopia but it's certainly not mine.
Yes, there is much blood, genocide, torture, murder, inhumane acts, etc... We can't possibly cover them all. They are all very well documented. Some go on to this very day, some have stopped and some acts are so well disguised under the notion of doing good for the people that it is virtually impossible to tell at first. GMO was supposed to solve many problems. Many studies have shown otherwise.

Besides the virtually destroyed soil that is drenched in pesticides, the pest are developing resistance, the yields of many types of crops are not any better but the soil is ruined and will take decades to recover, the bee population is dying and we will be royally screwed one day without the bees pollinating so much of our food source. At least some countries have seen the light, banned GMO products, banned pesticides and showed companies like Monsanto a very big middle finger. No wonder we are working on pollination drones now.... Where does it all stop?
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As I posted earlier — "For the future, don’t worry if your beer or wine has glyphosate in it, just be worried on how many you drink of the actual known carcinogen — alcohol."


National Cancer Institute (NCI) —
There is a strong scientific consensus that alcohol drinking can cause several types of cancer (1, 2). In its Report on Carcinogens, the National Toxicology Program of the US Department of Health and Human Services lists consumption of alcoholic beverages as a known human carcinogen.

The evidence indicates that the more alcohol a person drinks—particularly the more alcohol a person drinks regularly over time—the higher his or her risk of developing an alcohol-associated cancer. Even light drinkers (those who have no more than one drink per day) and binge drinkers have a modestly increased risk of some cancers (3–7).


So drink up.............cause alcohol will kill you before glyphosate in beer/wine.

So typical of U.S. PIRG.

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Ron, two wrongs do not make a right... What about the food?
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Ya I know Serge.Maybe some of the common folk of this planet could work out something with the the aliens to clean up some of our larger problems.
No doubt if any advanced civilization would take one look at what is going on our planet, they would hit the warp button and high tail outta here... The human species is beyond help.
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Ron, two wrongs do not make a right... What about the food?
What about all the plastic around us and plastic storing our food and drinks?

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What about all the plastic around us and plastic storing our food and drinks?

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Terrible. You know that China has stopped accepting our recyclables that were shipped on barges to them? Any idea what we are doing with our recyclables now? We are BURNING them... That's right, right back into the air we are breathing. I know because there is an incinerator facility that burns it about 30 min from me. The area has extreme incidences of asthma and lung cancer.
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