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Old 07-07-2013, 07:22 AM
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The crossover parts are cheap indeed (at least for this kind of speaker), but let's not forget that this is only a prototype crossover ... thay may opt for something more fancy when the design is finalised, or close to beeing finalysed.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:09 AM
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I see standard off the shelf parts from Mundorf and Solen, not any extraordinary good ones.
Total price around €2000 pr speaker.

I've seen better crossover parts used in speakers costing €300,000 less.
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Old 07-08-2013, 03:20 AM
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But i'm surprised Marten are not using the latest black-coated ceramic (BCC) drivers as per Avalon's new Tesseract, which by the way also uses the Cell-concept diamond midrange and tweeter & comes in $200k cheaper? I can only assume they couldn't reach an agreement to use these drivers
Tesseract have not a diamond midrange.

Avalon uses these elements in Tessaract.

4x15" sub woofers
1x11" ceramic/honeycomb midbass
1x4.5" ceramic mid
1x 0.78" diamond tweeter


The crossover components in Supreme II are just in this test model.
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:50 AM
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Tesseract have not a diamond midrange.

Avalon uses these elements in Tessaract.

4x15" sub woofers
1x11" ceramic/honeycomb midbass
1x4.5" ceramic mid
1x 0.78" diamond tweeter


The crossover components in Supreme II are just in this test model.
You're correct regarding the ceramic mid. It's still a heck of a speaker. I prefer the BCC Accutons which have better damping than the previous generation. Also, Avalon are using the CELL-concept drivers which have lower distortion and are more coherent than previous generations. Avalon speakers have always sounded natural and coherent & are great sound stagers. But the new Tesseract looks like it also delivers serious bass. Vive la difference as they say
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:43 AM
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You're correct regarding the ceramic mid. It's still a heck of a speaker. I prefer the BCC Accutons which have better damping than the previous generation. Also, Avalon are using the CELL-concept drivers which have lower distortion and are more coherent than previous generations. Avalon speakers have always sounded natural and coherent & are great sound stagers. But the new Tesseract looks like it also delivers serious bass. Vive la difference as they say
I have heard Avalon several times, not always my favorite, but some times really good. It's like always, the importance of the match with other gear. Tthe room and the acoustic is also important.
I have no doubt that Tesseract is a very very good speaker.

Thought, this thread is about the test version of Marten Supreme II.

I don't take a bad listening experience as the truth of a HiFi gear. But a good listening experience counts.
Bad gear can't sound good but good gear can sound bad.

Some brands makes me smile other don't. It's not always easy to say why.
It's also to some content personal. Especially when we talk about gear in this price range.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:00 PM
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Doesn't the Supreme 2 incorporate the new 'Cell' tech drivers or am I missing something ?
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:07 AM
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Doesn't the Supreme 2 incorporate the new 'Cell' tech drivers or am I missing something ?
Yes, the Coltrane Supreme 2 is using the Cell concept Diamond Tweeter & midrange...both excellent. I was just making the point the Tesseract is also using these drivers, but not the diamond version mid. Anyway, point taken about the Marten thread. I'll be quiet now
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:57 AM
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Yes, the Coltrane Supreme 2 is using the Cell concept Diamond Tweeter & midrange...both excellent. I was just making the point the Tesseract is also using these drivers, but not the diamond version mid. Anyway, point taken about the Marten thread. I'll be quiet now
I'll like you not to be quiet. It's always interesting to discuss speakers and of course some sidesteps is good.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:20 PM
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SO, the Coltrane Supreme FOUR tower speakers is down sizing to just TWO towers?? 360,000 Euros seems a wee bit high for only two towers....unless there will be two extra ones for the Supreme???

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Old 07-31-2013, 09:22 AM
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SO, the Coltrane Supreme FOUR tower speakers is down sizing to just TWO towers?? 360,000 Euros seems a wee bit high for only two towers....unless there will be two extra ones for the Supreme???

Cheers,
I do like this design much better than the Original. And i don't think to built and develop this speaker is not cheaper than the old version.
But it is still a crazy lot of money.
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