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Old 01-25-2013, 05:14 PM
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Nelson...I wish it had the same casework with the tube meters of the Ref 75

Do you know what the suggest list price is going to be on this one?
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:18 PM
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Retail US8,000
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:20 PM
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Retail US8,000
Interesting. Thx
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:34 PM
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Specifications
Power Output: 75 watts per channel continuous from 20Hz to 20kHz. 1 kHz total harmonic distortion typically 1.5% at 75 watts, .05% at 1 watt.
Approximate actual power available at “clipping” 80 watts (1kHz). (Note that actual power output is dependent upon both line voltage and “condition” i.e.: if power line has high distortion, maximum power will be affected adversely, although from a listening standpoint this is not very critical.)
Power Bandwidth: (-3dB points) 12Hz to 70kHz.
Frequency Response: (-3dB points at 1 watt) 1.0Hz to 70 kHz.
Input Sensitivity: 0.55V RMS Single-ended for rated output. (32.5dB gain into 8 ohms.)
Input Impedance: 52.5K ohms Single-ended.
Inputs (5): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (Single Ended RCA connectors).
Maximum Input: 10V RMS (any input).
Output Polarity: Non-Inverting (any input).
Push Buttons: Volume up, Volume down (103 steps), Power, Input, Mute, Bias. All functions on IR remote control.
Output Taps: 8 ohms, 4 ohms.
Output Regulation: Approximately 2dB 8 ohm load to open circuit (Damping factor approximately 4).
Overall Negative Feedback: 4dB.
Slew Rate: 10 volts/microsecond.
Rise Time: 4 microseconds.
Hum & Noise: Less than 1.0 mV RMS -88dB below rated output (IHF weighted, Vol down).
Power Supplies: Electronically regulated Low and High voltage supplies for input stages. Automatic 40 sec. warm-up/brown- out mute.
Power Supply Energy Storage: Approximately 350 joules.
Power Requirements: 100-125VAC 60Hz (200-250VAC 50Hz) 400 watts at rated output, 600 watts maximum, 210 watts at
“idle’: 1.0 watt power off.
Tubes Required: 2-Matched pair KT120-Power Output; 2 -6H30 driver.
Dimensions: Width 14.5” (36.8 cm) Height 9.25” (23.5 cm)
Depth 16.25” (41.3 cm) Rear connectors extend .88” beyond chassis.
Weight: 36.4 lbs. (16.5 kg) Net; 49.3 lbs. (22.4 kg) Shipping.
This unit is RoHS compliant
HIGH DEFINITION®
Specifications subject to change without notice. ©2013 Audio Research Corporation.

More than double the energy storage of the '60.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:46 PM
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More than double the energy storage of the '60.
Mark...also double the price. I believe the VSi60 was $3,995 when it came out. For only a 25% increase in output power (60 --> 75 wpc), seems like a bit of unreasonable hike. I am a huge ARC fan but I always appreciated that their integrated amps were priced "reasonably." If this were a 100 or 120 wpc integrated with direct lineage from Ref 75 power amp and some trickle down in the volume control and preamp stage from the Ref 5SE, then I would have said the $8K would have been a more appropriate price point. But this feels a bit rich to me

What do you guys think?
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:14 PM
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I was told there is some trickle down in this new amp and if you saw my first post, I said this is a new design and not an upgrade from the '60.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:23 PM
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I was told there is some trickle down in this new amp and if you saw my first post, I said this is a new design and not an upgrade from the '60.
You seem to think I was being critical of your statement. I was not. just following up on your comment with my observations. My question remains: I know we are just dealing with specs right now, but do you think it's good value where it is priced or a little bit rich? Just curious.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:31 PM
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The vsi60 was an excellent unit with a lot
of positive reviews.
And from ARC they saying they double the quality
and from what it saids in the manual is a brand
new unit from the ground up.
As soon they arrive at my store I will let you know
how it sounds.
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You seem to think I was being critical of your statement. I was not. just following up on your comment with my observations. My question remains: I know we are just dealing with specs right now, but do you think it's good value where it is priced or a little bit rich? Just curious.
The market will answer your question.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:09 PM
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Nelson...thx for that. Looking forward to your thoughts on it.

Mark...you are most certainly correct. Customers will vote one way or the other with their wallets. Here's hoping this is another successful product for ARC.
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