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Old 07-11-2012, 08:39 PM
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Any pricing on the D'ag pre? I bet an 077 would be awesome with your amps I mean really awesome
So subtle, yet pointed!

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Old 07-11-2012, 08:43 PM
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:23 AM
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Some designers think remote control circuit degrades sound.
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I understand that the unit will come with a remote, and it will be RF.
His mono & stereo amps are eye appealing to me; but, that preamp faceplate looks like it was drawn up while he sat at a short red light.

Why even include buttons and "thing-a-ma-bobs" since it is RF controlled?

A clean, smoothe, faceplate with the matching ring would have been overwhelmingly received by his Momentum clients IMO.

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Old 07-31-2012, 09:22 AM
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His mono & stereo amps are eye appealing to me; but, that preamp faceplate looks like it was drawn up while he sat at a short red light.

Why even include buttons and "thing-a-ma-bobs" since it is RF controlled?

A clean, smoothe, faceplate with the matching ring would have been overwhelmingly received by his Momentum clients IMO.

Bob
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I agree. I am very disappointed with the look of the new pre-amp but I will hold off final judgement until I can see and hear it.

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A clean, smoothe, faceplate with the matching ring would have been overwhelmingly received by his Momentum clients IMO.

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+ 1 with you Bob !

I find that my new KX-R could be a good partner of the Stereo Momentum

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+ 1 with you Bob !

I find that my new KX-R could be a good partner of the Stereo Momentum

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Frank, I also thought about the KX-R but I double checked with Ayre last week and they currently have no dealers in Michigan. That would make it hard for me to try the unit out in my system.

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I agree. I am very disappointed with the look of the new pre-amp but I will hold off final judgment until I can see and hear it. Jim
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+ 1 with you Bob ! I find that my new KX-R could be a good partner of the Stereo Momentum Frank
It’s a downright shame IMO and expect it gets a facelift within 6 months. When you spend that kind of $$’s, no matter how it sounds, there is a percentage of one’s decision that includes a pleasantry to the eye—admit it or not.

IMO, Dan failed to garner that part of my wholehearted support should I be interested in going the Momentums route & include his preamp.

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Way back in Oct-2011, Dan's earlier Momentum preamp prototype looked like this........




........and 6 days ago, Mono and Stereo Audio Magazine posted an updated look of the Momentum preamp on their website - MONO AND STEREO: Dan D'Agostino Momentum Preamplifier:




From what I gather from the above pics, in the updated look:
  • on the right side of the faceplate, 2 rotary knobs have been added, each with a crescent-shaped indicator light above them, which presumably are the tone controls that Dan mentioned he would be adding;
  • on the left side of the faceplate, instead of six buttons shown in the earlier prototype, there are now 8 buttons, and each button now has what looks like a small circular indicator light in the center of each button;
  • in the center of the faceplate, the volume control ring appears to be flush with the top of the meter, but is not flush with the bottom of the meter;
  • on both ends of the faceplate, the copper material/color features more prominently on the faceplate similar to that of the monoblock & stereo amps;
  • the chassis appears to be wider than in the earlier prototype;
  • the chassis feet are all aluminium and are also taller, which is different than the chassis feet of the monoblock & stereo amps; and
  • there is some additional aluminium metal work which appears to be protruding downwards underneath at the bottom of the main aluminium chassis. Either this forms part of the underside of the aluminium chassis (which I'ed be curiously interested to know what it is) or is simply something that the preamp is resting on (which doesn't quite make sense because the preamp already has the chassis feet).

How do I feel about the aesthetics?.......Well, I can say that it's growing on me.

Personally, on first glance, just like the first time I saw the pics of the Momentum monoblock amps on the web, my reaction was "What the ?#@*&%! is this?" . After awhile, I thought the monoblock amp pics looked kind of interesting. But after seeing the monoblock amps in person, I kept drooling and couldn't take my eyes off them . Finally, when I got to demo the monoblock amps, I ended up getting them.

Well it appears that I seem to be starting out on this same track again. So, will see how I feel when I get to see the final production version of the Momentum preamp in person, and more importantly, how it stands up sonically to my Ayre KX-R preamp/D.D. Momentum monoblock amps pairing.

Philip

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The two "knobs" on the right are what have me questioning the design. I would have preferred only have the volume control around the ceneter meter and having the remote control do the rest of the work.

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