Krell Adds Automatic Room Equalization System to Evolution 707

[1KW]

Thanks for you post Dan. My friend who has Krell wants to sell his amps. and buy Mcintosh . Krell and Mcintosh both make quality products.

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by 1KW

Thanks for you post Dan. My friend who has Krell wants to sell his amps. and buy Mcintosh . Krell and Mcintosh both make quality products.

David.......No doubt about it.

[PHC1]

Kool-Aid also comes in the blue meter flavor.... Of course it is hard to prove much of anything to a die hard fan. When one thinks that 32dB of negative feedback is a good thing vs 8 and the fact that too much causes sonic degredation, the fact that some manufacturers use absolutely no negative feedback except for a bit of local feedback, when one doesn't really want to hear what Active Cascode Topology is, what CAST does and why only 1 gain stage may actually be better, what effects a massive 6000VA power supply may have...

Some go out and listen and judge for themselves while some are simply mesmerized by the blue meters and as long as the gals keep winding the autoformers by hand in Binghampton, everything is OK in this world...

Dan, I am not a Kool-Aid drinker of any sort, that you can rest assured of. I don't hold allegiance to any brand, I am only happy when my gear keeps my musical hunger satisfied. As far as being loyal, I am loyal to my wife and kids but when it comes to any of the toys we play with, as soon as something else better pops up, I will switch without a second thought. I was once happy with McIntosh myself and I don't regret spending a few years with it, I enjoyed it. Lamm has opened up a whole new level of enjoyment for me but rest assured someday it will be replaced by something that will make me even happier. Krell is not even on my agenda.

Remember, this is only a hobby and TOYS we play with. Some take this stuff a bit too seriously.

[1KW]

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by 1KW

Thanks for you post Dan. My friend who has Krell wants to sell his amps. and buy Mcintosh . Krell and Mcintosh both make quality products.

Is this the friend with Vienna Acoustics Mahler speakers? When he saw the blue meters in your house, his Krell would no longer do... I can predict he will be looking into yet another amp once again in a short while. It is the kind of speaker that Krell actually does have pretty good synergy with.

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by PHC1

Remember, this is only a hobby and TOYS we play with. Some take this stuff a bit too seriously.

Serge.......I might be able to suggest the same to you.

I did not insinuate that you are or ever were a Kool Aid drinker. I used that line as a metaphor. We are all free to chose as we please. That is my point.

I am not inexperienced in the audio field. I have listened to many, many different amplifiers in my 43 years in this hobby. I have owned enough audio equipment to stock a store from front to rear. In recent years I have listen to a number of different Krell amps, and entire Krell systems, both in individual's homes and in audio store systems. Sound Advice in Florida (now defunct) tried hard on several ocassions to close me on Krell and Martin Logan systems. I am not unfamiliar with the Krell product, nor do I dispute the points you have presented. I have also auditioned many other great brands, and in my early days, pre Krell in the market place, I sold Mark Levinson in the same store with McIntosh. I have been exposed to, and help assemble many high-end systems for many customers and friends. Still, I don't pretend to know it all, but what I do know is I have never felt compelled to open my wallet for Krell products. That does not mean I can't appreciate their fine engineering, and their chiseled appearance, or that I have not been drawn to them as a potential customer, but ultimately I have not been able to fully appreciate their sound in any system I have heard. I am not bad mouthing Krell. It simply does not ring my bell.

Like you, I am able to go where my interests take me, and enjoy myself along the way. For at least the past twenty years I have been able to afford whatever gear that genuinely struck my fancy. I have carried into my home Audio Research amps and preamps on more than one ocassion, as well as Accuphase, Conrad-Johnson, B&K, and Mark Levinson, only to return them to their respective dealers. Ultimately, I discovered that indeed I enjoyed the McIntosh sound, synergy, build quality, and appearance best of all. I am not attempting to prove anything to anyone, nor does anyone have to prove anything to me. I make up my own mind based on my personal experieces, knowledge, and satisfaction. I don't really care how many dB of negative feedback is used or not used in a design, only that I like what I am hearing, and feel that what I have purchased represents the value of its price tag. Am I a McIntosh fan? Yes I am, but I am not a blue light fool. Can I be persuaded to purchase another company's products if I see and clearly hear their superiority in line with its cost? Absolutely. I am as free as you to be as excited or not about any audio products I choose to embrace. That is what keeps this hobby fun and interesting.

[Uberbrown]

Originally Posted by 1KW

My friend who has Krell wants to sell his amps. and buy Mcintosh.

My friend who has McIntosh wants to sell his amps. and buy Krell.

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Serge....... Am I a McIntosh fan? Yes I am, but I am not a blue light fool. Can I be persuaded to purchase another company's products if I see and clearly hear their superiority in line with its cost? Absolutely. I am as free as you to be as excited or not about any audio products I choose to embrace. That is what keeps this hobby fun and interesting.

Dan, keeping the conversation in a friendly fashion, how many other amps did you audition before you bought the MC501s? How about preamps in the same price ranges as 2 pairs of C1000? Be honest, was it a choice by audition or based on previous ownership of McIntosh?

The tables are turning. There was a time and we have all heard it, where different audio dealers would ridicule those speaking of McIntosh (even those carrying the brand, believe it or not). The last 2 dealers I spoke to, both said they "wished" they carried McIntosh. When I asked why? Their response was... care to guess?

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by Uberbrown

My friend who has McIntosh wants to sell his amps. and buy Krell.

The two of them should do business.

[Uberbrown]

Originally Posted by PHC1

The two of them should do business.

Ha! Great.

I was messing with Dave.

I was gonna say that "My friend is getting rid of his Elipsas and moving up to the Amatis" but I thought that was too harsh.

J/K J/K J/K, no one get mad please!