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Old 12-22-2011, 11:53 AM
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I have 2 channels on my MC207 that I am not using and have been thinking the same thing. I am using 5.2 now as well ie 2 JLF112 subs.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:11 PM
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7.1 for me. With the more recent Blu ray's the 7.1 sure sounds more discreet and feeding each rear and side speaker with a whole lot of independent sound effects. I can definitely hear the advantage of some 7.1 soundtracks.


Lossless surround sound formats
The newest high-resolution surround formats, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD™ Master Audio, offer up to 7.1 discrete channels of lossless audio. Along with adding two extra rear channels to the standard Dolby Digital and DTS formats, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio discs are encoded with more audio information per channel. In fact, it's identical to the movie studio's original master. That means the improved directionality and more precise effects makes it even closer to the experience of being in a movie theater.

Additional discrete 7.1-channel surround formats
You may find that some Blu-ray discs are also encoded with other discrete 7.1-channel surround formats. Dolby Laboratories and DTS developed Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD (High Resolution), respectively. These formats deliver 7.1 independent channels of sound. They provide more detailed surround effects than 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS, though they aren't lossless like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. Receivers that support lossless 7.1-channel formats will also support Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD (High Resolution).
That is what my understanding is of how the Newest Audio 7.1 formats work.
That is why I have the 7.1 (4-Subs) in my HT to catch all the surround effects on the New Blu-Ray 5.1 & 7.1 audio.
Looking forward to hearing the difference in my now out-dated Pre-Amp Integra processor to the new Integra DHC-80.3.

Terry
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Mitsubishi New 16-Seer, 24,000 BTU Split-Unit ... for Heating/Cooling & Humidity control of Home Theater
Marantz Pre-Amp Processor: ... AV8805
Panasonic DP-UB9000 New ... HDR 4K UHD Blu-ray Player:
Roku: New ... 2022 Ultra HD-4K-HDR-Atmos Streaming Player
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SVS PB16-Ultra Subwoofers New ... 4 PB-16 ULTRA Subs
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Classe' Amps ... 2-CA201, 1-CAM-350, 2-CA-M400
ATI AT526NC New ... ATI AT526NC 6 Channel Amp for
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A/C Power New ... All Separate 20-Amp Circuits W/Dedicated Hospital Grade Receptacles
Richard Gray Power Conditioners New ...
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Panamax MB1500 ... 2023 New 1500VA UPS Battery Backup for JVC RS4100 laser projector
Eaton ... Ultimate Home Surge Protection
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Sanus CFR1620 ... Modular open-frame component rack with Middle Atlantic 4-Post H/D Shelves
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Seating ... Ekornes Stressless Wave
Rosco Velour Black 6003 ... 2-coats of Black primer.
Then 2-coats of Full-Strength Rosco #6003 UN-Diluted to complete Dedicated Home Theater
Area Shag Rug New ... Liliah Deep Black Low-Shag by Andover Mills 12' x 15' Rectangle Area-Rug
Custom Calibrated H/T New ... Chad Billheimer on September 4th 2023 did my JVC RS4100.
The results were 100% Totally Awesome I Highly recommend his services. https://www.hdtvbychadb.com/home-1.html
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:23 AM
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That is what my understanding is of how the Newest Audio 7.1 formats work.
That is why I have the 7.1 (4-Subs) in my HT to catch all the surround effects on the New Blu-Ray 5.1 & 7.1 audio.
Looking forward to hearing the difference in my now out-dated Pre-Amp Integra processor to the new Integra DHC-80.3.

Terry
Looking forward too Terry!
I am planning to upgrade my HT this year.
Candidates for the processor: the Onkyo (= European Integra); or the Krell S-1200 and the Anthem D2v.
The Onkyo is like 4 times cheaper here.
Would also be easier to set up by oneself I suppose.
So I'm curious for your impressions!
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:59 PM
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Looking forward too Terry!
I am planning to upgrade my HT this year.
Candidates for the processor: the Onkyo (= European Integra); or the Krell S-1200 and the Anthem D2v.
The Onkyo is like 4 times cheaper here.
Would also be easier to set up by oneself I suppose.
So I'm curious for your impressions!
Bart,

I did look at the Krell S-1200 and a few other very high dollar processors.
Honestly I just could not convince myself that there could be all that much difference for the difference in cost.
Paying $10K Dollars for a Processor to me when a $2,700 Dollar one would do basically the same things I want it for was just not worth it.

There is no doubt that the Krell is a Superior processor.
But would I really be able to "Detect" any real difference in my HT watching and listening to movies.

Plus, the difference in price on those two units buys a lot of Blu-ray movies.
And it also buys many Lamps for the New Runco VX-11d at $1K dollars each.
Taking all that into consideration and the Cash on hand I went with the Integra DHC-80.3.

Here goes one person's opinion on the bottom line.
If you have virtually un-limited financial resources sure go get the Top-of-the-Line on "Everything".
I just don't fall even remotely into that group of people.
That being said I have purchased what I think will give the best results for the Dollars spent.

I will Post what my impressions are from my (Current) Integra Research RDC7 Processor to the New Integra DHC-80.3.
I'm not sure what to really expect to be honest.
The thing I would like to hear is a 7.1 BD (Blu-ray Disc) movie for the 1st time and experience all 7-Channels with information being sent to them (Independently).

I'm thinking that with the Integra DHC-80.3 having the Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 to correct for Room Acoustics.
Audyssey MultiEQ Pro Ready with Target EQ Curve Ready.
is going to make a major difference in what I will hear.

From Home Theater Magazine,

Integra DHC-80.3 Surround Processor and DTA-70.1 Amplifier | Home Theater

It also sports four times more filter resolution for the
subwoofer channels and supports two independent
subwoofers. To put it another way, the company literally
added in its popular standalone SubEQ into the XT32
framework and substantially upgraded its abilities with the
rest of your speakers.

I was already thrilled by the prospect of dual independent
subwoofer equalization, but the increase in filter resolution
isn’t subtle. Fine detail in recordings sounded better than
ever, and the slight harshness I occasionally noticed in the
midrange is gone. While I would always rely on Audyssey
for movie soundtracks, I wasn’t always a fan with music
playback. Not so anymore. MultEQ XT32 does a beautiful
job with every facet of the audible spectrum and coaxed
even the finest details out of the recordings I listened to.
At the end of the day, this is the reason to own this
processor. I love the other bells and whistles the DHC-80.3
brings to the table, but this is one feature that stands to
noticeably improve the sound of your system.


Terry
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Mitsubishi New 16-Seer, 24,000 BTU Split-Unit ... for Heating/Cooling & Humidity control of Home Theater
Marantz Pre-Amp Processor: ... AV8805
Panasonic DP-UB9000 New ... HDR 4K UHD Blu-ray Player:
Roku: New ... 2022 Ultra HD-4K-HDR-Atmos Streaming Player
JVC RS4100 New ... Laser Projector
Lumagen Radiance Pro New ... 4242 18G Ultra HD Video Processor
Stewart Filmscreen: New ... Stewart StudioTek 130 G4 123" 16x9 W/4-Way Remote Masking
JML Speakers ... 2-JM Lab Utopia Mezzo Front, 2-Side Utopia, 2-Rear Mini Utopia
Focal Sopra ... Center Channel
Triad Atmos New ... 6 Triad Custom Repeat Gold 8 Mini Monitor Plus in-ceiling speakers W/Matching Flat Black Grills
SVS PB16-Ultra Subwoofers New ... 4 PB-16 ULTRA Subs
Transparent Speaker Cables ... Transparent TW Plus HP 10-2 W/Plus Bricks
Classe' Amps ... 2-CA201, 1-CAM-350, 2-CA-M400
ATI AT526NC New ... ATI AT526NC 6 Channel Amp for
6 Triad Atmos in-ceiling speakers
A/C Power New ... All Separate 20-Amp Circuits W/Dedicated Hospital Grade Receptacles
Richard Gray Power Conditioners New ...
1- RGPC-1200S, 9-RGPC-400S
Panamax MB1500 ... 2023 New 1500VA UPS Battery Backup for JVC RS4100 laser projector
Eaton ... Ultimate Home Surge Protection
CRITEC TDX100M New ... Modular Series Home Transient Voltage Surge Suppressor
HT Components/Gear Cooling ... 3-sets of Z-Fans, Cool-Stack I, Suncourt Variable Speed Thru Wall Fan
ATM ... Active Thermal Management Cool Stack 1 Exhaust Fan Assembly
Home Theater Component Mid Atlantic Rack ... Slide-Out 50" Track
Sanus CFR1620 ... Modular open-frame component rack with Middle Atlantic 4-Post H/D Shelves
Room Acoustic ... Acoustic Innovations panels
Seating ... Ekornes Stressless Wave
Rosco Velour Black 6003 ... 2-coats of Black primer.
Then 2-coats of Full-Strength Rosco #6003 UN-Diluted to complete Dedicated Home Theater
Area Shag Rug New ... Liliah Deep Black Low-Shag by Andover Mills 12' x 15' Rectangle Area-Rug
Custom Calibrated H/T New ... Chad Billheimer on September 4th 2023 did my JVC RS4100.
The results were 100% Totally Awesome I Highly recommend his services. https://www.hdtvbychadb.com/home-1.html

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Old 01-22-2012, 06:20 PM
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Bart,

I did look at the Krell S-1200 and a few other very high dollar processors.
Honestly I just could not convince myself that there could be all that much difference for the difference in cost.
Paying $10K Dollars for a Processor to me when a $2,700 Dollar one would do basically the same things I want it for was just not worth it.

There is no doubt that the Krell is a Superior processor.
But would I really be able to "Detect" any real difference in my HT watching and listening to movies.

Plus, the difference in price on those two units buys a lot of Blu-ray movies.
And it also buys many Lamps for the New Runco VX-11d at $1K dollars each.
Taking all that into consideration and the Cash on hand I went with the Integra DHC-80.3.

Here goes one person's opinion on the bottom line.
If you have virtually un-limited financial resources sure go get the Top-of-the-Line on "Everything".
I just don't fall even remotely into that group of people.
That being said I have purchased what I think will give the best results for the Dollars spent.

I will Post what my impressions are from my (Current) Integra Research RDC7 Processor to the New Integra DHC-80.3.
I'm not sure what to really expect to be honest.
The thing I would like to hear is a 7.1 BD (Blu-ray Disc) movie for the 1st time and experience all 7-Channels with information being sent to them (Independently).

I'm thinking that with the Integra DHC-80.3 having the Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 to correct for Room Acoustics.
Audyssey MultiEQ Pro Ready with Target EQ Curve Ready.
is going to make a major difference in what I will hear.

From Home Theater Magazine,

Integra DHC-80.3 Surround Processor and DTA-70.1 Amplifier | Home Theater

It also sports four times more filter resolution for the
subwoofer channels and supports two independent
subwoofers. To put it another way, the company literally
added in its popular standalone SubEQ into the XT32
framework and substantially upgraded its abilities with the
rest of your speakers.

I was already thrilled by the prospect of dual independent
subwoofer equalization, but the increase in filter resolution
isn’t subtle. Fine detail in recordings sounded better than
ever, and the slight harshness I occasionally noticed in the
midrange is gone. While I would always rely on Audyssey
for movie soundtracks, I wasn’t always a fan with music
playback. Not so anymore. MultEQ XT32 does a beautiful
job with every facet of the audible spectrum and coaxed
even the finest details out of the recordings I listened to.
At the end of the day, this is the reason to own this
processor. I love the other bells and whistles the DHC-80.3
brings to the table, but this is one feature that stands to
noticeably improve the sound of your system.


Terry
Thanks Terry.
Good info.
Because I'm for 90% a music man, 10% film and opera on Blu-ray.
30% of the music is SA-CD multi-channel.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:15 PM
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Thanks Terry.
Good info.
Because I'm for 90% a music man, 10% film and opera on Blu-ray.
30% of the music is SA-CD multi-channel.
Bart,

Glad you found the information helpful.

I'm the movie sort of Fellow on this end.
I do listen to music if it is on a DVD where I can see and hear it all.
Now it will be seeing & watching concerts on BD.

Terry
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Mitsubishi New 16-Seer, 24,000 BTU Split-Unit ... for Heating/Cooling & Humidity control of Home Theater
Marantz Pre-Amp Processor: ... AV8805
Panasonic DP-UB9000 New ... HDR 4K UHD Blu-ray Player:
Roku: New ... 2022 Ultra HD-4K-HDR-Atmos Streaming Player
JVC RS4100 New ... Laser Projector
Lumagen Radiance Pro New ... 4242 18G Ultra HD Video Processor
Stewart Filmscreen: New ... Stewart StudioTek 130 G4 123" 16x9 W/4-Way Remote Masking
JML Speakers ... 2-JM Lab Utopia Mezzo Front, 2-Side Utopia, 2-Rear Mini Utopia
Focal Sopra ... Center Channel
Triad Atmos New ... 6 Triad Custom Repeat Gold 8 Mini Monitor Plus in-ceiling speakers W/Matching Flat Black Grills
SVS PB16-Ultra Subwoofers New ... 4 PB-16 ULTRA Subs
Transparent Speaker Cables ... Transparent TW Plus HP 10-2 W/Plus Bricks
Classe' Amps ... 2-CA201, 1-CAM-350, 2-CA-M400
ATI AT526NC New ... ATI AT526NC 6 Channel Amp for
6 Triad Atmos in-ceiling speakers
A/C Power New ... All Separate 20-Amp Circuits W/Dedicated Hospital Grade Receptacles
Richard Gray Power Conditioners New ...
1- RGPC-1200S, 9-RGPC-400S
Panamax MB1500 ... 2023 New 1500VA UPS Battery Backup for JVC RS4100 laser projector
Eaton ... Ultimate Home Surge Protection
CRITEC TDX100M New ... Modular Series Home Transient Voltage Surge Suppressor
HT Components/Gear Cooling ... 3-sets of Z-Fans, Cool-Stack I, Suncourt Variable Speed Thru Wall Fan
ATM ... Active Thermal Management Cool Stack 1 Exhaust Fan Assembly
Home Theater Component Mid Atlantic Rack ... Slide-Out 50" Track
Sanus CFR1620 ... Modular open-frame component rack with Middle Atlantic 4-Post H/D Shelves
Room Acoustic ... Acoustic Innovations panels
Seating ... Ekornes Stressless Wave
Rosco Velour Black 6003 ... 2-coats of Black primer.
Then 2-coats of Full-Strength Rosco #6003 UN-Diluted to complete Dedicated Home Theater
Area Shag Rug New ... Liliah Deep Black Low-Shag by Andover Mills 12' x 15' Rectangle Area-Rug
Custom Calibrated H/T New ... Chad Billheimer on September 4th 2023 did my JVC RS4100.
The results were 100% Totally Awesome I Highly recommend his services. https://www.hdtvbychadb.com/home-1.html
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