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Old 12-08-2020, 12:40 PM
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I am running the MC462 currently but just ordered a pair of 611s to replace it Driving 802d3s looking forward to hearing the difference
Have the 611s already arrived? When buying my 611s I compared them with a 462 on KEF Blades. I didn't need 30" to be convinced of the 611s. Much more dynamics, separation and something fluffy called "air".
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Have the 611s already arrived? When buying my 611s I compared them with a 462 on KEF Blades. I didn't need 30" to be convinced of the 611s. Much more dynamics, separation and something fluffy called "air".
realistically the only upgrade path from the 462 is two 611's... I don't look forward to the day when I need to do this, as I already have a great audio rack and finding a place for two amps, vs one will not be fun!
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and here is a pic of my 611s and 802d3.
BTN..... I know that this thread is a bit on the older side, but I still want to compliment you on your nice system. I'm sorry if I missed it somehow, but what is powering your center speaker? In fact, what model is the center speaker between your beautiful B&W 802D3s?

Once again, nice system
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MC611 Club..... Please excuse the [monoblock] rookie question, but what are the advantages of the MC611 over the venerable MC601s that Dan (jdandy) made so famous...and, in case you don't know what that means, Dan is the AAF legend who started the MC601 club.

Here's the photo of one of Dan's MC601 meters that made quite an impression on me (please notice his words about headroom):

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Old 12-18-2020, 04:02 PM
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Thumbs up MC611s and an MC303!

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Guys here is the start of the MC611 Club. I am new to this but extremely excited to a part of such a great group of audio lovers! Would love to get as many people to join as possible. Below is a picture of my current rack set up. I will be connecting all my gear this weekend and will report back on how it all sounds. Thank you for reading and joining in on the fun



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Now that's the way to get (5) channels of Mac goodness! Two big Mac mono blocks for the fronts and an MC303 for the rest. I'm very jealous.
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MC611 Club..... Please excuse the [monoblock] rookie question, but what are the advantages of the MC611 over the venerable MC601s that Dan (jdandy) made so famous...and, in case you don't know what that means, Dan is the AAF legend who started the MC601 club.

Here's the photo of one of Dan's MC601 meters that made quite an impression on me (please notice his words about headroom):


None that I have heard. I really wanted to see if ‘upgrading’ was worth it but I couldn’t hear any differences.
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This video is worth a watch. I speaks to the difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9vEMjXQ5kI
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This video is worth a watch. I speaks to the difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9vEMjXQ5kI

I watched the video and they were getting into the technical aspects of the changes more than anything else. Regardless, SMC23 makes a good point. Can anyone really hear a big enough difference to justify all that goes with an upgrade?

EDIT: Upon viewing the video some more, they seem to be saying that there's no comparing the two monoblocks. Well, that's a whole lot different than what I've heard from others, including SMC23.
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BTN..... I know that this thread is a bit on the older side, but I still want to compliment you on your nice system. I'm sorry if I missed it somehow, but what is powering your center speaker? In fact, what model is the center speaker between your beautiful B&W 802D3s?

Once again, nice system
Hi,
Thanks for your kind words. My Center is B&W HTM1-D3 and it's currently powered by the Bryston 9BST which also drives my B&W Surrounds SCM. I like very much the combo of Mac Amps and B&W speakers.
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Hi,
Thanks for your kind words. My Center is B&W HTM1-D3 and it's currently powered by the Bryston 9BST which also drives my B&W Surrounds SCM. I like very much the combo of Mac Amps and B&W speakers.
After being blown out of NOLA in ott-five, we were forced into a [unltra-quiet] condo environment for over a decade. When we got back into a home again, back in late-18, we dusted off all of our stereo gear, including a pair of B&W 802s, and got back to listening to our music collection. At that point, I became aware of another brand of audio gear that seems to be competitive with the Mac brand I fell in love with back in the late-70s, Bryston. I've never owned any of the Canuck brand's stuff, but I've become keenly interested in them over the past couple of years.

Regardless, I commend you on your choice of speakers and your choice of a multichannel amp. Is the 9BST spec'd at 200W per channel? How many channels did you plug into the 9BST's chassis? Like I said, I'm keen to learn about the Bryston brand.

I also agree with your observation of Mac-driven B&W loud speakers. When we had the B&W 800D3s demonstrated for us, earlier this year, each speaker was driven by a Mac MC1.2KW monoblock. Although I'm a bona fide rookie in this regard, they were streaming digital tunes for the demo and, quite frankly, they were getting a lot of sound out of those D3s with very little power from those McMonoMonsters! To say that those MC1.2KWs have headroom to spare is an enormous understatement.

Here's a "picture" that tells the story much better than I can...
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