Shunyata Triton vs. Triton v2

[PASSFREAK]

Originally Posted by rnrmf1971

I agree with you about buying based on spectacular reviews.

I think the overall results one perceives from the Shunyata Triton, may vary based on the quality of electrical power that runs to your system

For me, in my system, Shunyata devices are products about subtlety, though. What I mean by that is that my Triton V2 doesn't "supercharge" my system, or make the bass explosive, or make the dynamic swings more powerful. I've had 2 PS Audio devices that sort of did things along those lines, and to an enjoyable benefit.

As my system has gotten better and I've zeroed in on areas of musical presentation that didn't seem natural to me, I've been better able to make decisions about products that better meet my goals for the sound of my system.

The Triton V1, in comparison to my PS Audio products, made my system sound like it had lost body and tonal saturation, as well as dynamics. I could hear a natural calming effect it had, but it seemed like one step forward and two steps back in my system. So I passed on the Triton V1. I had auditioned it with a Typhon, as well, and felt that the Typhon was almost necessary for the Triton V1 because of some tonal saturation it seemed to restore.

Enter the Trition V2 - I did not perceive a significant loss of tonal saturation and body with the V2 and the attributes of noise reduction and a more natural musical presentation were apparent after some extended listening over about a week. The first thing I was curious about was it's effect on body/saturation because of my perception with the V1. Once I established that I didn't hear lessening to any significant degree with the V2, I just listened and enjoyed the V2 for a few days. It's hard to describe, but music just sounded more natural, with a reduction in artificial brightness (at least as I heard it), in my system versus my PS Audio device. Comparisons between the PS Audio and Shunyata products revealed that the Triton V2 was removing a haze from the background that I didn't really know was there. Removing that noise made for a more beautiful rendition of music. Music was clearer, calmer, more extended on the top end, displayed natural tonal colors, and the soundstage became deeper in so much as I was able to hear lower level musical information that was previously flatter sounding or somewhat obscured. With the V2 music from my speakers became more naturally 3 dimensional, clear, and non-fatiguing.

Adding a Typhon to the V2 increased this. I subsequently added an additional Typhon to the circuit my amplifiers are on and that was the icing on the cake.

Auditioning the Triton V2 and Typhon sold me on the idea of "passive" power conditioning products and I understand how the PS Audio devices I've had may have been additive with regard to the sound.

It almost became a lesson in listening, for me, because I became aware of what the Shunyata Trition V2 wasn't doing, and what my PS Audio device was doing. Once my expectations were tempered, I could recognize the superiority of the Triton V2 in my system because I wasn't looking for a drastic change. In the end it was the subtle changes that made the Triton V2 work in my system and I couldn't be happier.

I have not heard the latest Shunyata Denali products, and some, but not all, are saying they are superior to the Triton V2. By themselves, they seem to be less expensive than a Triton V2 so maybe that is a better way to go for you. That said, I'm perfectly happy with my Triton V2 and not hunting for something new. When I get to audition the Denali line, I'll make up my mind, at that point. But I'm happy with things for now.

Very graphic, i appreciate your comment

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by PASSFREAK

Hello everyone!
Is still a good purchase to own an ex demo, like new condition Shunyata Triton v1?
I read that the v2 is far superior but this ex demo unit costs less than a half of the brand new v2 and with the difference i can buy a Sigma HC for the Triton v1and still save money for a Sigma Digital for my Esoteric G-02 Master Clock Generator.
The Triton v1 + Sigma HC powercord equals the Triton v2 performance?
Is the Triton v1 a highly reliable product? If i buy this ex demo unit can i use for many many years?
Thanks a lot
Pablo

Hi Pablo,
I've had a Triton for about four years now, and it has really made a significant difference to the sound quality of my system, and I wouldn't be without it. It removes a lot of grunge, glare and hash from your system so the presentation is much more natural, relaxed (in the best possible sense), musical and *quieter*. It brings what I refer to as a "listening ease" to the music that just lets you settle into the music and forget about equipment. I have a Hydra 8, and while it is very good, the Triton is just on another level altogether. So, I have to agree with Caelin, picking up a used one for 50% is a great value and will provide a lot of benefit to your system.

And as Caelin pointed out, you can always upgrade to a V2 at a later time, and in fact, I just contacted Richard Rogers at Shunyata this week about having mine upgraded. I will very like do so as soon I sell some stereo and camera gear.

In general, I've found Shunyata products provide greater impact in the sound quality of my system than interconnects and speaker cables, and therefore I've invested more in power cables and distributors than other cables. I think very, very highly of this company's products, and Caelin is the only engineer of these types products that I know of that has fully developed a statistically meaningful measurement to evaluate the design and performance (aka DTCD) of his products. Way cool.

In fact, I was trying for number of years to get him to try some Design of Expriments on his cable and distributor designs since he has such an excellent measurement system in place (hint, hint...)

[BlueFox]

Let me be another vote for the Triton v2, and the Cyclops v2. I was just amazed at the difference between the v1 and the v2 versions of each Hydra. I thought the v1 was great, but the additional noise reduction from the v2 was more than subtle. I even added a Triton v2 to my HT since it works so well. Whether the Denali is better or not I don't know. I do know I am so happy with my current system I see no reason to even think of an upgrade.

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Lumin S1
Sony XA5400ES SACD
Pass XP-20 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 speakers

Shunyata Triton v2/Typhon for source, Cyclops v2 (2) for amps
Shunyata Z Anaconda XLR analog ICs, Z Anaconda speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Revelation Audio Passage Cryo-Silver Reference DB-25 umbilical power cable

Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.

[tima]

First Sounds: Shunyata Research Hydra Triton v2 on The Audio Beat

The Triton v1 + Sigma HC powercord equals the Triton v2 performance?

No.

But imo the Sigma HC nicely complements the Triton v2. Try your best power cord on the Triton v2 then borrow a Sigma HC from a dealer and learn the difference it makes.

[sander]

Originally Posted by rnrmf1971

For me, in my system, Shunyata devices are products about subtlety, though. What I mean by that is that my Triton V2 doesn't "supercharge" my system, or make the bass explosive, or make the dynamic swings more powerful. I've had 2 PS Audio devices that sort of did things along those lines, and to an enjoyable benefit.

Hi, very interesting.
Which 2 PS Audio devices are you talking about?

I've compared a Triton V1 with a P10 once and i had a similar experience.

The P10 made a spectaculair change where the Triton was more subtle.

I didn't compared them yet in my own setup. But i wonder if i would prefer the P10 over the Triton in my home.
Maybe the P10 is a bit too much for me.

Sander.

[rnrmf1971]

Originally Posted by sander

Hi, very interesting.
Which 2 PS Audio devices are you talking about?

I've compared a Triton V1 with a P10 once and i had a similar experience.

The P10 made a spectaculair change where the Triton was more subtle.

I didn't compared them yet in my own setup. But i wonder if i would prefer the P10 over the Triton in my home.
Maybe the P10 is a bit too much for me.

Sander.

Mainly, the P10. I liked the P10 better than the Triton V1, in my system.
The Triton V2 offered more than what the P10 was doing, though, with respect to the sound being more natural and non-fatiguing. I think that it's probably due to the difference in the Triton being passive and the P10 being active.