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Adding a C500 (or C1000) to a MX-122
Someone made the comment on a different posting of mine that they noticed I had an excellent system...except for the fact that I didn't have a 2 channel pre-amp. I originally had ideas to acquire an all "1000" system...but since I just bought this MX-122 and I have an MDA1000 as well....does anyone see any sonic advantage by adding a c500 or c1000? I think it would be redundant right? I don't plan on adding any more sources that either the mda or the mx-122 couldn't handle. I think adding either of those would just be a waste of money? Thoughts??
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Redundant. I sold an excellent C2300 as I only had one source in that room (and no turntable). Your MDA1000 and MX122 will be fine.
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The MX 122 digitizes every input with its internal DAC. You can't bypass them. Adding an analog preamp allows you to eliminate this A/D and D/A conversion process. That in my view is a good thing.
But you'll have to decide if it makes enough of a sonic difference to justify the cost. Tom
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Main System: Amati Futura Mains Amati Homage VOX Center, Proac Response 1sc Rears, Three MC2301's for L,C,R MC 602 for the rears C 1100, MX 151, MCD 1100, MR 80 Nottingham Dais with Wave Mechanic Sumiko Palo Santos Presentation SurfacePro 3, RPi 4, ROON, WW Starlight Platinum USB, Schiit Yggdrasil, Benchmark DAC3 HGC MX 151, OppO BDP-95, JVC RS-500 DILA projector, 106" diagonal Stewart Luxus Screenwall Deluxe with Studiotek 130 G3 material. Lake House: Ohm F, MC 275V, C2300, MR 77, Rega P3 OnDeck: McIntosh MAC 4300v |
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The improvement provided by a C500, C1000 or C1100 will be significant with two channel audio. Especially with phono, outboard DAC or other analog sources.
The HT pre/pro are not nearly as quiet as the dedicated two channel preamps. Additionally the tubes will provide a richer sound (if that is what you desire). Finally, the two box McIntosh preamps are balanced with separation of the power supply and noisy digital bits. They are a clear step above and he C2300,2500 or 2600. |
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The MX122 does have a dedicated pure audio mode that bypasses internal processing.
With that said, a MX122 will not be even close to the sound you would get from a dedicated stereo pre-amp, no matter which one you choose. It all comes down to how important is 2 channel music to you.
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The MX 122 has a feature to bypass the internal signal processing, correct, but the internal A/D and D/A are still in circuit. That is what I was able to research. If that is truly incorrect then I'll stand corrected. McIntosh has been pretty cagey about the difference.
Tom
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Main System: Amati Futura Mains Amati Homage VOX Center, Proac Response 1sc Rears, Three MC2301's for L,C,R MC 602 for the rears C 1100, MX 151, MCD 1100, MR 80 Nottingham Dais with Wave Mechanic Sumiko Palo Santos Presentation SurfacePro 3, RPi 4, ROON, WW Starlight Platinum USB, Schiit Yggdrasil, Benchmark DAC3 HGC MX 151, OppO BDP-95, JVC RS-500 DILA projector, 106" diagonal Stewart Luxus Screenwall Deluxe with Studiotek 130 G3 material. Lake House: Ohm F, MC 275V, C2300, MR 77, Rega P3 OnDeck: McIntosh MAC 4300v |
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A stereo preamp would need to go after the MX-122. |
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Big difference when using Pure Audio vs going thru the internal DAC on the MX121 so I presume the same with the MX122. I tried Pure Audio vs also going thru my C2300 and C500 and could hear hardly any differnce. Changing the source - I.e external DAC - made much more of a difference.
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