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Old 03-13-2019, 01:43 AM
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Doh! I knew that.

Just call me Jim-Bill!

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Old 03-13-2019, 11:31 AM
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You can also Tri-amp each side; these would work in a pinch.

I knew I could count on you to come through for me, Ivan.

At Definitive's Music Matters last week, Sonus Faber's Will Kline had the Aida 2s on demo driven by four large Macintosh 1.25KW mono amps. They did a pretty creditable job, considering I never saw the meters go above 12 watts!

I was thinking another Momentum S250 might be nice for vertical biamping. Not that the Aidas *need* it mind you from what I hear so far -- but another Momentum in the rack might be nice for, you know, symmetry.

Nature (and Ivan) abhor an unsymmetrical stereo rack and will rush to fill it.

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Old 03-13-2019, 11:37 AM
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Congratulations Steve, what wonderful speakers and a great system. I also am in love with SF designs, and think the Aida is their best looking speaker. You’re a lucky guy.

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Thank you, Tony. I agree about SF, and I am indeed a fortunate man -- great wife, great life and a pretty decent stereo.

I've got an acre to play on over here on the Olympic Peninsula. We could have a backyard barbecue when the weather starts getting nice (any day now, any day!).

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Hahaha my brother Jim is a rocket scientist!
Sorry about mis-naming you Bill. Jim (Still-One) distracted me! (Easy enough to do and I seldom need any help).

Last night I followed your advice and pulled all the room treatments out, turned the LF and Depth controls to minimum and started playing a bit with positioning. Still very much a work in progress but I find the Aidas very responsive to small position changes. Lots of little thin post-it stickies on the floor.

Far from done experimenting but something as simple as moving my chair two inches back made a huge difference -- the soundstage opened up even more an the speakers are beginning to completely disappear on everything but hard-right/hard-left mastered jazz and early rock recordings.

And bringing the low frequency control back up to mid-point sounds just right, rather than having it slightly higher as I first thought I might need. So thank you very much for your suggestions. I've still got work to do, but I'm getting there.

The door is always open, Bill if you're in the neighborhood!

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Steve... for me 1050 was the magic number for my Aida’s. Once I horizontally Bi-Amped them with (3) Burmester 911 MKIII Amps (350 watts per channel stereo) so 350 x 3 each side.

The Aida’s then gave me all they were capable of.
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Steve... for me 1050 was the magic number for my Aida’s. Once I horizontally Bi-Amped them with (3) Burmester 911 MKIII Amps (350 watts per channel stereo) so 350 x 3 each side.

The Aida’s then gave me all they were capable of.
So an S250 per side = 500 watts (into 4 ohms) x 2 = 1000

A nice round number and very close to the magic 1050!



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Thank you, Tony. I agree about SF, and I am indeed a fortunate man -- great wife, great life and a pretty decent stereo.

I've got an acre to play on over here on the Olympic Peninsula. We could have a backyard barbecue when the weather starts getting nice (any day now, any day!).

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I'd fly in to hear/see that!!! Might be out sooner than that though [emoji16]
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So an S250 per side = 500 watts (into 4 ohms) x 2 = 1000

A nice round number and very close to the magic 1050!



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I've talked with several Aida owners and of course heard them in Mecca (Ivan's house [emoji16]). The essential and common element seems to be tri-amping in general. Sure, 1000, 1050, 1500 with 3x the same amp are all good numbers but you could also tier them from bass on up from what Ive been told by 2 other owners. Matching amps' sound sigs is key...
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:10 AM
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So an S250 per side = 500 watts (into 4 ohms) x 2 = 1000



A nice round number and very close to the magic 1050!







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Good to hear your excitement!

Why would your watts double from 500 per side, making 1000 and not just be 500? Separate amp, separate power.

Mind you 500 is plenty IMO
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I'd fly in to hear/see that!!! Might be out sooner than that though [emoji16]
Always welcome!

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