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Old 03-14-2017, 05:45 AM
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Default New GND cables Venom/Delta/Alpha/Sigma

I noticed from the recent pricelist that there are new GND or CGS cables available. Namely Venom/Delta/Alpha/Sigma.

I use the CGS10 in my system with good results wired to the CGS terminals of my soon to be upgraded Triton V2. Are there really any performance benefits by going up in the range? Does CGS10 model correspond to a certain performance level in the new range of GND cables?

Also is there any reason to use a certain GND cable with the Denali vs Triton V3?

My system will consist of (when delivered from upgrade):

Triton V3 - Hometheater Electronics, preamp, HDMI switch, BD-streamer
Triton V3 - Active front Speaker array
Denali - Music streamer server, 10Gbit Asus XG-U2008 network switch, router, acitve side surround speaker.

Currently all connected equipment to the Tritons have CGS10 cables connected to an equipment screw/metal. This was beneficial and increased 'fluidity' of the music as well as microdynamics.

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Old 03-14-2017, 08:19 AM
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Caelin...what is retail pricing on these ground cables and device/accessories? Is there a whitepaper or other product literature you can share?
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Old 03-14-2017, 12:09 PM
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We have just released the new price lists to our dealers and distributors. The Product Catalog and Technology Guide are in development. We anticipate releasing them in a couple of weeks.
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I noticed from the recent pricelist that there are new GND or CGS cables available. Namely Venom/Delta/Alpha/Sigma.

Are there really any performance benefits by going up in the range? Does CGS10 model correspond to a certain performance level in the new range of GND cables?

Also is there any reason to use a certain GND cable with the Denali vs Triton V3?
The TRITON v2 imtroduced a CGS chassis grounding system. There is an NIC noise isolation chamber inside the TRITON that is dedicated to reducing noise on the ground plane within the TRITON. We made this grounding system availble outside of the TRITON by adding four grounding terminals to the TRITON chassis.

The Denali does not use an internal NIC for grounding but does have external ground terminals to allow system-wide grounding.

The CGS10 grounding cables are good quality, inexpensive cables.

We are now providing a new range of grounding cables based upon our VTX (virtual tube) OFE conductors. The cables will be availble with a variety of terminations including pure copper spades, gold plated copper terminals, XLR and RCA connectors. The new range is called SGC/CGC Ground Cables. More details will be forthcoming.
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The TRITON v2 imtroduced a CGS chassis grounding system. There is an NIC noise isolation chamber inside the TRITON that is dedicated to reducing noise on the ground plane within the TRITON. We made this grounding system availble outside of the TRITON by adding four grounding terminals to the TRITON chassis.

The Denali does not use an internal NIC for grounding but does have external ground terminals to allow system-wide grounding.

The CGS10 grounding cables are good quality, inexpensive cables.

We are now providing a new range of grounding cables based upon our VTX (virtual tube) OFE conductors. The cables will be availble with a variety of terminations including pure copper spades, gold plated copper terminals, XLR and RCA connectors. The new range is called SGC/CGC Ground Cables. More details will be forthcoming.
Thank you for both answers, this and the prior response!
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:04 PM
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Thanks Caelin, I think I see where this is going when you mention new connectors available: XLR and RCA.

Interesting.
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:26 PM
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This is a bit too interesting for me to not ask.

Previously we have used the CGS terminals on the Triton which do have a NIC for absorbing high frequency mostly (I guess). Now, we have GND cables also connecting to signal ground. Was it simply just a matter of testing it out to be electrically safe for also connecting signal ground to the CGS terminals?

This opens up a new set of possibilities.

Question: Digital Preamp - today a CGS10 cable screwed into an ethernet input card. Would it be beneficial to ALSO connect one Venom/Delta/Alpha/Sigma CGS cable from CGS terminal to a signal ground on an input card?

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This is a bit too interesting for me to not ask.

Previously we have used the CGS terminals on the Triton which do have a NIC for absorbing high frequency mostly (I guess). Now, we have GND cables also connecting to signal ground. Was it simply just a matter of testing it out to be electrically safe for also connecting signal ground to the CGS terminals?

This opens up a new set of possibilities.

Question: Digital Preamp - today a CGS10 cable screwed into an ethernet input card. Would it be beneficial to ALSO connect one Venom/Delta/Alpha/Sigma CGS cable from CGS terminal to a signal ground on an input card?
CGS/SGC Grounding Cables
CGC means Chassis Ground Cable
SGC means Signal Ground Cable

CGC cables can be terminated with spade or ring terminals. They are designed to interconnect chassis grounds to the TRITON CGS terminals.

SGC cables can be terminated with spades or bananas at one end and either RCA or XLR connectors at the other end.

The TRITON CGS system was designed specifically to create a common grounding system for all the chassis and equipmemt racks in the system. It is NOT designed as a signal grounding system and should NOT be used in that manner.

The CGC/SGC cables have excellent performance and people have asked us to make SGC terminations available for products designed for signal grounding such as from Entreq, Tripoint, Telos and others.
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Old 03-16-2017, 03:56 AM
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I'll think I'll wait for your signal grounding discovery, maybe modular insert and able to use parts/chassis of the Triton V4...

Are the SGC cables containing built-in NR technology?

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