Giya Grilles

[Tompy]

Interesting -I have the exact same experience. The right speaker grill snaps on tight while the left is not shaped tightly enough to connect to all sides. I can confirm that a little bending with your hand can adjust the shape of the grill. Whilst the solution to that problem is simple, the fact remains that the edges of those grills can scratch the paint, or even damage the speaker if you're unlucky.

[Lee3]

>>>The right speaker grill snaps on tight while the left is not shaped tightly enough to connect to all sides. I can confirm that a little bending with your hand can adjust the shape of the grill. Whilst the solution to that problem is simple...<<<<

Bill's and mine sound more alike where both grilles snap fine on one speaker and neither snaps tight on the other. This was not something that was remedied by refitting either grille. In my case the addition of another tiny magnet kept far from any driver solved it to my satisfaction. Visually i can't even see it once i take a step back from the speaker.

[BillK]

I just think it's interesting how even though they're not labeled as left and right, somehow Lee3, Tompy and I all ended up with weaker grille magnets on our left channel speakers.

[Lee3]

Originally Posted by Vivid Audio

This is the kind of post that makes me want to die... Obviously there's no real excuse other than to say that the first time we noticed that there was a bit of creep in the manufacturing process, (embedding the magnets too deep in the cabinet structure), we took action to prevent it from recurring but obviously there are a few cabinets out there with weak grille attachment magnets.

It happens in life and lets hope for all of us that these are the kinds of problems we get to deal with in this world. If you've pursued this hobby for any length of time, you like to mess around with gear and see what works and what doesn't. This particular problem is very easily remedied. I will still state unequivocally that these are the nicest loudspeakers I've ever heard. If it takes a little effort on my part to enjoy them to their fullest, so be it.

To that end Graeme, thanks for your help on the drivers. I returned home this past weekend and installed them no problem and everything is smooth sailing. Those drivers are quite delicate indeed and I gather (as I'm no engineer) that is what is necessary for resolution at this level. It was so nice to sit back and listen with amazement at all the nuances that I've never heard before in music that I've been enjoying for 30+ years. I did practice installing and reinstalling my old damaged drivers before replacing with the new ones and that helped build my confidence. I love these speakers and they stand heads and shoulders above any other that I've owned or heard in my journey down this path.

[bart]

Originally Posted by Lee3

It happens in life and lets hope for all of us that these are the kinds of problems we get to deal with in this world. If you've pursued this hobby for any length of time, you like to mess around with gear and see what works and what doesn't. This particular problem is very easily remedied. I will still state unequivocally that these are the nicest loudspeakers I've ever heard. If it takes a little effort on my part to enjoy them to their fullest, so be it.

To that end Graeme, thanks for your help on the drivers. I returned home this past weekend and installed them no problem and everything is smooth sailing. Those drivers are quite delicate indeed and I gather (as I'm no engineer) that is what is necessary for resolution at this level. It was so nice to sit back and listen with amazement at all the nuances that I've never heard before in music that I've been enjoying for 30+ years. I did practice installing and reinstalling my old damaged drivers before replacing with the new ones and that helped build my confidence. I love these speakers and they stand heads and shoulders above any other that I've owned or heard in my journey down this path.

Lee, beautifully said!

[BillK]

Originally Posted by Lee3

It happens in life and lets hope for all of us that these are the kinds of problems we get to deal with in this world. If you've pursued this hobby for any length of time, you like to mess around with gear and see what works and what doesn't. This particular problem is very easily remedied.

I know you fixed yours with the extra magnet, but I can't help but wonder if having anything additional around the speaker interferes with HF propagation at all.

Hmmm...

[Lee3]

Originally Posted by BillK

I know you fixed yours with the extra magnet, but I can't help but wonder if having anything additional around the speaker interferes with HF propagation at all.

Hmmm...

Bill, remember that i'm in the minority who listen to them with grilles removed and the magnet is attached to the grille as opposed to the cabinet. In my case, it's not near the tweeter for the vast majority of my listening habits though i readily admit that i don't always detach them. I suspect that my boys with their wrestling and ballgames are FAR more harmful to high frequency reproduction if the grilles aren't protecting the drivers during their playtime. Pick your poison I suppose.

At least they are no longer tempted to pull off the tweeter from the old 802s because they look like a microphone. My glass is half full...

[BillK]

Ah… I thought the magnet was glued to the speaker, not the grille.

All is clear now.

[Tompy]

Originally Posted by BillK

Ah&hellip; I thought the magnet was glued to the speaker, not the grille.

All is clear now.

Aye, same here -I thought they were glued to the speaker. Got it now. Btw Lee3 -a couple of thumbs up for your assessment of the G2 sound quality. They are indeed way above anything else I have heard in the business so far. It's as if the sound is not constrained by a cabinet.

[Lee3]

Gents, sorry I probably should have been a little more clear as there is no glue either. It's simply a strong magnet the size of your fingertip that you can buy in any hardware store. It comes in silver and since my speakers are piano black, I bought some gloss black spray paint to color the magnet from silver to black. It attaches itself to the grille with ease (or the spray paint can so be careful) and always comes off with the grille. No glue and I can't even tell that it's there from the front or the side unless I get my face within a foot of the speaker which is really only when I occasionally wipe them down. I suppose I could glue it but it hasn't been necessary and I've used them this way for months now.