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Old 04-11-2018, 08:06 PM
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I have 200W amp, speakers are 8 ohms, sound is great, fills the room nicely, very clear at low volumes etc...so, what will happen if I use E-650, which is rated @ 30W/ch?
E-650 is guaranteed 30W/ch @ 8 Ohms, 60W/ch @ 4 Ohms, 120W/ch @ 2 Ohms and 150W/ch @ 1 Ohm in pure Class A.
The maximum output power before clipping is 75W/ch @ 8 Ohms, 125W/ch @ 4 Ohms, 190W/ch @ 2 Ohms, 220W/ch @ 1 Ohm

3 Questions:
What is the power of your 200W amp @ 4 Ohms, @ 2 Ohms or @ 1 Ohm (if specified at all)?
Speakers are most likely nominal 8 Ohms. What is the impedance minimum of your speakers and at what frequency does it occur?
What is the sensitivity of your speakers (dB @ 1W)?.

If unsure, try it out.

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Old 04-11-2018, 08:52 PM
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E-650 is guaranteed 30W/ch @ 8 Ohms, 60W/ch @ 4 Ohms, 120W/ch @ 2 Ohms and 150W/ch @ 1 Ohm in pure Class A.
The maximum output power before clipping is 75W/ch @ 8 Ohms, 125W/ch @ 4 Ohms, 190W/ch @ 2 Ohms, 220W/ch @ 1 Ohm

3 Questions:
What is the power of your 200W amp @ 4 Ohms, @ 2 Ohms or @ 1 Ohm (if specified at all)?
Speakers are most likely nominal 8 Ohms. What is the impedance minimum of your speakers and at what frequency does it occur?
What is the sensitivity of your speakers (dB @ 1W)?.

If unsure, try it out.

Martin
-amp is 200W...has ability to connect 8/4/2 ohms speakers...no other rating..
-speakers have impedance compatible with 8 ohms (spec info)
-speakers suitable power amp 15W-450W (spec info)
-sensitivity 94dB (spec info)
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:37 PM
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-amp is 200W...has ability to connect 8/4/2 ohms speakers...no other rating..

-speakers have impedance compatible with 8 ohms (spec info)

-speakers suitable power amp 15W-450W (spec info)

-sensitivity 94dB (spec info)


So you have pretty easy to drive speakers with their 94dB sensitivity. Just remember that the E-650 is pure class A for the first 30W at 8 ohms. Then in can switch to class AB if needed.

Also it would be helpful to know what the impedance curve looks like for your speakers if you have it. I would still not worry about the E-650 being able to adequately drive your speakers.

High Fidelity just recently posted a review of the E-650 and they were using Harbeth speakers with sensitivity of 84dB (the E-650 had no issues driving those).
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:09 AM
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Hello Ivan,

I just ordered a 650 yesterday and I can't wait! I had e470 before and liked it as well, how you liking your 650?

regards,
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:02 AM
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:04 AM
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ACCU650... Welcome to AA!

The 650 is a phenomenal performer; I really enjoy mine.
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Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:57 PM
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Accuphase e650 looks gorgeous and seems to be a very good performer. I wonder how it is compared to Gryphon Diablo 300 as they are very similar on price.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:43 PM
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Accuphase e650 looks gorgeous and seems to be a very good performer. I wonder how it is compared to Gryphon Diablo 300 as they are very similar on price.
The only reason they are similar in price is the crazy importer mark up. The similarities end there as the E650 is a $7k integrated in Japan and the Gryphon is not.
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Old 04-30-2018, 03:32 PM
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..IMO

Yes ..its crazy, but as Ivan has said before its the "Price of Admission"
and well worth it not to have to hassle with voltage conversion, shipping from Japan and losing any warranty coverage.
Yes the nearly extra $10k buys you a peace of mind alright and the importer a nice retirement.
The point I was making was not whether one should buy the Accuphase here or in Japan but that the Gryphon is on another level and it costs what it costs.
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Old 04-30-2018, 11:53 PM
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Gents... let me remind everyone this is an Accuphase E-650 thread.
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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