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Old 03-31-2017, 09:07 PM
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Well I am starting to think this is the best DAC I have ever heard. The most "analog" sounding digital ever... and with DSD128 and DSD256... holy cow... Lyn Stanley, Cat Stevens, Claire Barlow, and others at 128... Fiona Joy at 256... I will put this against any turntable/vinyl combination you come up with... simply WOW...

DACs I have used since jumping back into this crazy hobby 1.5 years ago as a comparison...

McIntosh MX-A70, BurrBrown, PCM only
Teac UD-501, BurrBrown, w/DSD up to 128
Ayres Pono, ESS 9018 mobile, DSD up to 128*
Denon, BurrBrown, DSD up to 128
Wyred 4 Sound DAC-1LE, ESS 9018, DSD up to 256
Marantz SA8005, Cyrus Logic, DSD up to 128*
NuPrime DAC-10H, ESS 9018, DSD up to 256
Benchmark DAC2 HGC, ESS 9018, DSD 64
Benchmark DAC3 HGC, ESS 9028 Pro, DSD 64*
Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2v2SE, ESS 9038 Pro, DSD up to 256*

* Currently own...

This new Wyred is simply put.... Amazing!

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Old 05-27-2017, 08:28 PM
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Well I am starting to think this is the best DAC I have ever heard. The most "analog" sounding digital ever... and with DSD128 and DSD256... holy cow... Lyn Stanley, Cat Stevens, Claire Barlow, and others at 128... Fiona Joy at 256... I will put this against any turntable/vinyl combination you come up with... simply WOW...

DACs I have used since jumping back into this crazy hobby 1.5 years ago as a comparison...

McIntosh MX-A70, BurrBrown, PCM only
Teac UD-501, BurrBrown, w/DSD up to 128
Ayres Pono, ESS 9018 mobile, DSD up to 128*
Denon, BurrBrown, DSD up to 128
Wyred 4 Sound DAC-1LE, ESS 9018, DSD up to 256
Marantz SA8005, Cyrus Logic, DSD up to 128*
NuPrime DAC-10H, ESS 9018, DSD up to 256
Benchmark DAC2 HGC, ESS 9018, DSD 64
Benchmark DAC3 HGC, ESS 9028 Pro, DSD 64*
Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2v2SE, ESS 9038 Pro, DSD up to 256*

* Currently own...

This new Wyred is simply put.... Amazing!
Hi Randy - I know you posted this awhile ago but I wanted to say that I'm not as enthusiastic about the sound as you are. IT IS an upgrade as compared to my original DAC-2 DSDse but I would never say that it is better than a good analog setup.

What are you driving your DAC with if I may ask? Maybe, my high powered laptop is the problem here. I've even got a W4S Recovery in there powered by the Uptone Audio LPS-1.
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Old 05-27-2017, 08:34 PM
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OR maybe there is still something off with my DAC-2V2SE?!?!?!
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Old 05-27-2017, 08:38 PM
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Hi Randy - I know you posted this awhile ago but I wanted to say that I'm not as enthusiastic about the sound as you are. IT IS an upgrade as compared to my original DAC-2 DSDse but I would never say that it is better than a good analog setup.

What are you driving your DAC with if I may ask? Maybe, my high powered laptop is the problem here. I've even got a W4S Recovery in there powered by the Uptone Audio LPS-1.
Randy gets carried away sometimes...

Randy, try going to RMAF this year. You'll hear analog setups that will mesmerize you. And digital. And you suddenly won't care what chip is in the box.
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Well I am starting to think this is the best DAC I have ever heard. The most "analog" sounding digital ever... and with DSD128 and DSD256... holy cow... Lyn Stanley, Cat Stevens, Claire Barlow, and others at 128... Fiona Joy at 256... I will put this against any turntable/vinyl combination you come up with... simply WOW...

DACs I have used since jumping back into this crazy hobby 1.5 years ago as a comparison...

...
Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2v2SE, ESS 9038 Pro, DSD up to 256*

* Currently own...

This new Wyred is simply put.... Amazing!
Randy, are you (or anyone else) using the Recovery with the DAC-2v2SE ?

If so, does the Recovery still make a noticeable improvement ?

TIA

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Old 06-14-2017, 06:43 AM
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I use the Recovery with my Dac1V2 and find the sound to be as analog as analog can be. I'm a CEDIA installer and have many different brands to choose from. Out of all I've listened too I find the W4S to be as close to non digital as they come. Of course you can find other Dac's that offer your ears a more analog sound. Associated equipment,room acoustics and other variables are at play. We all hear differently. Good luck with your search for audio nirvana. I found mine.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:22 AM
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Hi. The Recovery does alter the sound in my system - seemingly more so since the upgrade.

The system is: Pure Music 3 - Recovery - DAC 2V2 SE - Wyred ST1000 - Usher Be718s (GR crossovers - Be tweeters) + Usher stands + REL Storm III; Wireworld cables.

Interestingly, with the 'Series 1' DAC 2 DSD SE, I was doubtful that the Recovery did much at all. If anything, when first installed I was concerned that the Recovery made things a little "tighter" in a bad way - maybe a little added detail at the expense of naturalness. But, having experienced break-in previously, I left things alone and the sound returned to its previous relaxed involving tone. Swapping it in and out later made me think it was not doing much, but maybe there was a slight gain in clarity.

The upgraded DAC returned a week ago. Starved of music for three weeks (it was shipped to and from Australia), I've been listening lots. And have been motivated to slip the Recovery in and out of the chain. Without the Recovery, the system is still clearly and markedly improved by the upgraded DAC. Wow - good job Wyred. With the Recovery in place, I hear a better defined bass, with more punch and colour. Imaging is more precise. Perhaps the highs are a little less lush - but I don't trust my own judgement here - really, either with or without the Recovery, the highs are fabulous.

Just to keep these differences in perspective. I would say the upgrade from DAC2 DSD SE to DAC 2V2 SE is a "plus 10", in some arbitrary unit; while the adding the Recovery to the chain is a "plus 1" or a "plus 2". Still "plus 2" is not nothing - and I'm leaving it in for now.

I'm going to let the DAC fully burn in for a few weeks, and then do the Recovery in/out listening tests again.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers, Rob
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Hi. The Recovery does alter the sound in my system - seemingly more so since the upgrade.

The system is: Pure Music 3 - Recovery - DAC 2V2 SE - Wyred ST1000 - Usher Be718s (GR crossovers - Be tweeters) + Usher stands + REL Storm III; Wireworld cables.

Interestingly, with the 'Series 1' DAC 2 DSD SE, I was doubtful that the Recovery did much at all. If anything, when first installed I was concerned that the Recovery made things a little "tighter" in a bad way - maybe a little added detail at the expense of naturalness. But, having experienced break-in previously, I left things alone and the sound returned to its previous relaxed involving tone. Swapping it in and out later made me think it was not doing much, but maybe there was a slight gain in clarity.

The upgraded DAC returned a week ago. Starved of music for three weeks (it was shipped to and from Australia), I've been listening lots. And have been motivated to slip the Recovery in and out of the chain. Without the Recovery, the system is still clearly and markedly improved by the upgraded DAC. Wow - good job Wyred. With the Recovery in place, I hear a better defined bass, with more punch and colour. Imaging is more precise. Perhaps the highs are a little less lush - but I don't trust my own judgement here - really, either with or without the Recovery, the highs are fabulous.

Just to keep these differences in perspective. I would say the upgrade from DAC2 DSD SE to DAC 2V2 SE is a "plus 10", in some arbitrary unit; while the adding the Recovery to the chain is a "plus 1" or a "plus 2". Still "plus 2" is not nothing - and I'm leaving it in for now.

I'm going to let the DAC fully burn in for a few weeks, and then do the Recovery in/out listening tests again.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers, Rob
Rob.......Welcome to Audio Aficionado.

Excellent first post. The Wyred 4 Sound DAC2 has been a benchmark for performance versus value across many years. It is impressive that W4S continues to update and improve the performance while still managing to keep it at a reasonable price point that exceeds much of its competition. I enjoyed reading your impressions.
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Thank you for your kind words Rob. We strive to make upgrades true improvements and real values. It is always nice to hear when a customer is enjoying their upgrade!
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