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Old 08-29-2017, 03:32 PM
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Default Focal Scala V2 vs B&W 802D3?

I currently own the 802d3, which is paired with Mcintosh 601's. The 802D3 image really well and really can disappear. Female vocals are pretty amazing, and in general higher frequencies are quite good. However, I am looking for something with even more realism, identity, and even more precise imaging focus with greater depth. the 802d3s seem to be lacking in 3d soundstage. I also have a pair of REL 25's that take care of everything below 36 hz so i will be incorporating those as well. I have pretty much maxed out my sources and cabling etc, as you can see in my signature, so I feel now i need to upgrade my speakers.

I am looking to possibly upgrade speakers in the next 6-9 months, and was looking at the Focal Scalas vs SF Cremonese.

I am looking to integrate these speakers as part of my home theater as well (I have a 2 channel/7.1 hybrid system, don't have the space for 2 separate rooms). My center channel is the HTM1.

Suggestions? I've been told that my room is too small for the maestro.

My room is 19' x 21' x 8.
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Old 08-29-2017, 06:25 PM
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IMHO, SF cremonese is better sounding speakers than scal V2,more bass,more rhythm,sweet sounding.
I have scala V2, I find Bottom end is lacking,mid tones/voices are wonderful;however ,at higher notes it makes me get up and move around
I am also considering a cremonese up grade when fund become available

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Old 08-29-2017, 07:52 PM
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Thanks !

I have a 19 x 21 x 8 room. Would this room be too small for the cremonese?
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2 Channel:
Speakers: Magico M3's
Subs: REL 25 x 2
Amps: McIntosh 601 x 2
Preamp: McIntosh C52
Digital: Esoteric D02x; Esoteric P02x; Aurender W20
Analog: Clearaudio Master Innovation with 12 inch Universal Tonearm and Goldfinger statement cart; Esoteric E-03 phono stage
Power: 3 Furutech GTX-D (R) receptacles with wall plates; Torus AVR20 power conditioner; Wireworld Silver Electra PC's
Rack: HRS SXR Signature with M3X

Home Theater:^^ +

Processor: Anthem AVM 60
Center, Rears, and mids speakers: B&W HTM1; B&W CM6 x 2 and B&W CCM 662 x 2; WW cabling
Subs: JL Audio F113v2 X4
Amp: McIntosh 8207
Source: OPPO 205
Output: Sony VPL-VW675ES projector on SI 132 in zero edge screen with LED Backlight

Room treatments: Vicoustics
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:57 PM
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don't move away from your first choice that easy, listen to these speakers yourself before deciding.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:15 PM
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The 802D3s are pretty damn good. Not sure's it's worth spending more money on something maybe 5% better.
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Better jump on the cremonese on audiogon from a guy in Illinois. Ain't gonna see that for a while.
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in my opinion the cremonese just a side step with a different flavor
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Have you heard your 802 D3s with other electronics?
Instead of changing speakers, you might be pleasantly surprised with an amp change.
(I hope the McIntosh lovers won't be too much offended ).
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Have you heard your 802 D3s with other electronics?
Instead of changing speakers, you might be pleasantly surprised with an amp change.
(I hope the McIntosh lovers won't be too much offended ).
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Have you heard your 802 D3s with other electronics?
Instead of changing speakers, you might be pleasantly surprised with an amp change.
(I hope the McIntosh lovers won't be too much offended ).
Agreed. Even within tube changes in the preamp, I am sound that is remarkably different on the 802D3.
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