New Shunyata Ethernet Cables!

[CGabriel]

Originally Posted by crion2

What happened to this smart pricing? I checked the prices on additional lengths for Alpha and Sigma and they were $50 and $75, besides they are identical cable material. Far from $14-$18. This for me limits where I would consider Shunyata ethernets.

Long (10m) cables just gets thrown of the map for no apparent reason. The tech in Sigma/alpha compared to others are in the additional common mode thingies, not the conductor. That is why I think the new pricing is contradictory to selling longer lengths of alpha/sigma. Where IMHO they would perhaps do most good?

This has already been pointed out by other dealers and distributors. The most recent price list that we put out had errors in the formulas used to calculated the extra lengths. We are working to correct them and issue a revised list.

[crion2]

Great! Waiting in anticipation then if longer lengths are becoming reasonable again.

[Soundserge]

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

What is SFTP?

Shielded with Foiled Twisted Pairs.

[Soundserge]

Originally Posted by crion2

Anyone in the beta group tried the ethernet cables on s/pdif transport mode like say a Meridian Speakerlink (semi AES/EBU cable) or Meridian MMHR 4xS/PDIF in a cat7 SFTP cable.

Can we expect similar improvement for critical s/pdif lanes running over cat6a/cat7 sftp?
Using AQ Diamond currently.

I am wondering the same thing.

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by crion2

Anyone in the beta group tried the ethernet cables on s/pdif transport mode like say a Meridian Speakerlink (semi AES/EBU cable) or Meridian MMHR 4xS/PDIF in a cat7 SFTP cable.

Can we expect similar improvement for critical s/pdif lanes running over cat6a/cat7 sftp?
Using AQ Diamond currently.

These Blow AQ Diamond away, which were quite good. I use these in my Accuphase Reference System for the HS-Link connections.

[crion2]

Thanks Ivan, that gives us a bit more of an apples to apples comparison use-case. Could you expand a bit what the differences where. Is there something that still the AQ was really good at in the HS-Link application and in comparison?

Bass I guess will be stellar(?) but how is the treble and the resolution? Soundstage? Speed? There is no Ag in Shunyatas ethernet compared to the AQ Diamond. And I've usually come to love the Ag versions of WW Platinum HDMI, AQ Diamond RJ45. Also when I DIY'd S/PDIF cables I used pure silver conductors, WBT 0110 Ag connectors and that gave me the best results in speed, articulation and resolution.

Similarly the VTX-Ag used in the powercables does bring silver qualities into the Shunyata range and I really enjoy that.

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by crion2

Thanks Ivan, that gives us a bit more of an apples to apples comparison use-case. Could you expand a bit what the differences where. Is there something that still the AQ was really good at in the HS-Link application and in comparison?

Bass I guess will be stellar(?) but how is the treble and the resolution? Soundstage? Speed? There is no Ag in Shunyatas ethernet compared to the AQ Diamond. And I've usually come to love the Ag versions of WW Platinum HDMI, AQ Diamond RJ45. Also when I DIY'd S/PDIF cables I used pure silver conductors, WBT 0110 Ag connectors and that gave me the best results in speed, articulation and resolution.

Similarly the VTX-Ag used in the powercables does bring silver qualities into the Shunyata range and I really enjoy that.

My personal view is that it would be inaccurate to conclude that the performance of a digital cable is strictly concordant or dependent on the composition of the conductor(s). As we're kinda finding out "real-time" with respect to digital cables, there are too many factors (some of which may yet be characterized) to be able to generalize that digital audio performance is exclusively concordant with silver as a conductor vs. other factors, e.g. cable geometry, construction, shielding, management of high-impedance current leakage currents, ground plane and common noise management, just to name a few.

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by crion2

Thanks Ivan, that gives us a bit more of an apples to apples comparison use-case. Could you expand a bit what the differences where. Is there something that still the AQ was really good at in the HS-Link application and in comparison?

Bass I guess will be stellar(?) but how is the treble and the resolution? Soundstage? Speed? There is no Ag in Shunyatas ethernet compared to the AQ Diamond. And I've usually come to love the Ag versions of WW Platinum HDMI, AQ Diamond RJ45. Also when I DIY'd S/PDIF cables I used pure silver conductors, WBT 0110 Ag connectors and that gave me the best results in speed, articulation and resolution.

Similarly the VTX-Ag used in the powercables does bring silver qualities into the Shunyata range and I really enjoy that.

I haven't used the Shunyata Ether in the configuration Ivan referenced, but I did a comprehensive competitive benchmarking of Ethernet cables last year, and the even the entry-level Venom Ether was considerably better than the competitors in ALL respects that it was downright laughable. I remember swapping out the AQ Vodka with the Venom and it Venom so clearly superior in all aspects that I burst out laughing. My understanding is that the AQ Diamond was used as the "datum" for developing the Venom Ether, and if prototypes did not surpass it, it would have remained in development until it did.

The Shunyata Alpha and Sigma Ethers are respectively, 1 and 2 quantum jumps above the Venom, each audibly superior to the model below.

[mr_gray]

Since adding a Sigma E/net cable to my system it has been very eye opening. With that noise removed there is less pressure on downstream components like USB in my opinion. My feeling is clean up the E/net like you clean up the Power. Do it at the "wall" and do it well and be done with it.

If I was starting from scratch with noise management I would allocate budget to buying the best NR power cord I could afford to connect wall to power board and also to buying a Sigma E/net cable. Before ICs and before USB. Before Spkr Cable. Without noise from cable gone and noise from wall gone nothing is as it should be as one tries to use ones' ears and evolve a sound system.

[crion2]

Originally Posted by CGabriel

This has already been pointed out by other dealers and distributors. The most recent price list that we put out had errors in the formulas used to calculated the extra lengths. We are working to correct them and issue a revised list.

Hi Caelin, is there an ETA on this revised list? Will the additional length prices for .25m be corrected closer to launch prices on Shunyata webpage as well?

I would love to consider Shunyata on the longer lengths in my system.