Thanks Ivan, I got your message. I have always felt bad about the whole subscriber thing because I have been a forum member since the summer of 2011 but I always feel I'm doing you a disservice if I just become a subscriber but don't buy anything from you. With me being caught up in my speaker upgrades over the past couple of years with still more to come all cable upgrades have been put on the back burner, so I can't get any Wireworld or Kimber from you for the time being