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Originally Posted by Ricjor1

If you read my comments it's clear that I'm not comparing the Aerial 7T's to the 500's. If you read the thread I've clearly been comparing the Aerial 7T's with subs and in my case with the JL Audio CR1 Electronic Crossover. Considering what I had with the Aerial 7T's, including cables for the subs, cables for the crossover and power cords that I purchased brings the delta in "retail" cost to less than 10K retail of the PL500's. Here are my comments: Now that I've added dual subs, I know Ill keep the 7Ts for a long time. (5/22/2015) I agree the 7Ts are some of the best speakers out there with subs. If the room is relatively big, then I submit adding subs are a must! That being said, the 7Ts are at a specific price point for a reason. Although I haven't heard the 20Ts, I'm assuming they must be better than the 7Ts. I'm sure the 12Ts will be a step-up from the 7Ts. I think they compete against speakers above their price category, but I do think they have their limitations. You may prefer Aerial 7Ts with subs (5/2/2016) It's hard because the 7Ts with subs are really, really great. (5/9/2016) It's silly to compare the 7T's without subs directly to the 500s. 1) Price difference(although price isn't always an indicator of better) 2) My room is more suitable to a full range speaker and I wouldn't compare the 500s to the 7T's in a smaller room My comments really aren't about the 7T's, but more about my dissatisfaction with subs. A year ago I posted, "Now that I've added dual subs, I know I'll keep the 7Ts for a long time. Yet, after several months with subs, something just didn't sound correct. Every time I've had subs, I've ended up dissatisfied and selling them. Because of my room's dimensions I wanted/ required a full range speaker and I found that with the PL500s. Finally you said, "Just for comparison, I'd like to see what Michael Kelly would come up with in that price range." If you read my post from 5/2/2016 in this thread, I clearly mentioned the 20T's and 12T's. To be honest with you, I was trying to wait for the 12T's, but I was presented such a great opportunity to purchase the PL500s I couldn't resist. I'm grateful and extremely happy I purchased the PL500's.

I totally agree with you Rick. Yes the 7Ts with subs are fantastic. Yet as you have found out. I have also found. Their is just "something " not totally coherent when you add subs to the mixture. Of course we all hear differently. Maybe it's the cone material, maybe the amp. Whatever the reason I hear a difference from top to bottom that I am more aware of the longer I listen to my 7Ts and JL Audio E110s. I too want a true full range speaker. The 7s are fantastic for their price and I get a solid 30hz in my listening room. But I want more hence the addition of subs. That is the sole reason why I'm so excited about the 500s. I'm going to Chicago to hear them this weekend and will let you know my impression. Yes. 30k is big bucks but I want my final speaker as well. In talking to Mike Kelly he has informed me that it will be at least 2017 before 12Ts are out. My question to me is. Are the 500s worth getting now or do I make do till the 12Ts come out. As I'm an Aerial dealer it raises a question I won't be able to answer till I hear the Monitors. And yes I find products that I don't install and like them better. And buy them. Again. I agree with the comments made about costs. Yet it's all relevant if we get what makes each of us satisfied without the constant upgrading which gets costly over time. And the final nail in this discussion for me, I didn't find the 20Ts went deep enough without help so their wasn't any reason to buy those over 7Ts. My worry is the 12s maybe same story. Well written Rick.