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Old 04-15-2012, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fjn04 View Post
I have been trying to gather ideas for a second TT setup. I own a Well-Tempered Amadeus with an Emt Tsd-15N cartridge. This a great combination, that for the money may be hard to beat. I don't want to exceed the general price range of my current setup, but am open minded to spending a little less. I have actually thought of a second Amadeus, but want to have a more open mind. The Thorens Td-124 or Girrard 301 route is an interesting idea, but I admit that it may not be the best idea for me.
It all depends of what "sound" you want to get from your second turntable. I've gone through at least a dozen in the last 5 years (VPI, Rega, Thorens TD124, TD125, Project, Empire 298 and 598, ...)

The modern tables were too cold and analytical for me, at time I felt like I was listening to a CD. Kudos for accuracy, but they scored low on deliciousness. The rim-drive Thorens TD124 (I had 2 of them) sounded great, but I had rumble issues - even after refurbing them replacing some key parts.

The ones I kept are the Thorens TD125ii with SME 3009ii tonearm and the Empire 398. I made my decision based on sound, they both sounded very warm, relaxed and delicious. They made vinyl sound like vinyl and not CD.

I have no doubt that someone else would have preferred the Rega or VPI with they more precise sound.

That's why I think it's crucial to know ahead of time what kind of experience you want from your second turntable before one can make recommendations.

Hope this helps,


PS Photo of my favorite turntable. Still with me after 6+ years.

Sources: Thorens TD125 ii + SME 3009 + Clearaudio Maestro, McIntosh MDA1000 + MCD201, Sonos
Amplification and Speakers: McIntosh C34V->McIntosh MC250->Tannoy Sandringham
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