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elbig 08-09-2019 08:37 PM

Sony XBR77A9G
 
Just bought this TV. I will get it calibrated later but in the meantime I am wondering if anyone has one and what settings you are using or recommend.

markramler 08-09-2019 11:40 PM

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1559897568

This review of the A9G provides recommended calibration for SD. I used it and it did improve the factory settings for HD.

djwhog 08-09-2019 11:52 PM

Wow that is a great TV congrats...

elbig 08-10-2019 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markramler (Post 975551)
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1559897568

This review of the A9G provides recommended calibration for SD. I used it and it did improve the factory settings for HD.

Thanks will do.

elbig 08-10-2019 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwhog (Post 975556)
Wow that is a great TV congrats...

Thanks.

prepress 10-12-2020 03:37 PM

Hi elbig,

I am moving toward an A9G, though I've yet to decide between 55" and 65". In fact, I've an audition scheduled for Wednesday. I will be interested to know how your 77" is doing.

Update, 10/14: I bought the 55" version.

prepress 10-16-2020 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markramler (Post 975551)
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1559897568

This review of the A9G provides recommended calibration for SD. I used it and it did improve the factory settings for HD.

So, how much improvement did you see in standard definition with those adjustments?

prepress 11-01-2020 06:54 AM

I returned to the store yesterday and made a change. I opted for the 65" A9G instead, with full calibration. In particular, the SDR calibration will be of help for standard definition content. Tentative delivery is for the day after Thanksgiving.

I auditioned the 77" model, as it was on display. The 65" will be sharper, and to a greater degree than the 55" would be vs. the 65". The 77" set's pixels are larger and further apart than on the 65", but most of my test discs were good. Wanted: Dead or Alive was quite good-looking for an old TV show, and the store owner was surprised to hear that the Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood Live from Madison Square Garden DVD wasn't a blu-ray. The one exception is my Yes Live at Montreaux DVD; shots of Rick Wakeman's keyboards looked like white hash. Calibration will help with that, I'm thinking.

I'm not a fan of the Sony's design, but that will be offset a bit by the larger size; the 65" set will have more visual weight than the 55" set, in my opinion.

prepress 11-14-2020 06:31 AM

Getting closer. My A9G passed its QC tests and pro calibration will be next. "Custom" picture mode is best in general, and especially for movies, based upon what I saw with the A8H I saw first trip to the store. Will be interesting to see how the A9G looks once it's fully calibrated and what the settings are.

I'm still a bit melancholy about giving up my Kuro, but am developing a sense of anticipation regarding the new Sony too (finally).

prepress 11-27-2020 08:08 PM

Got mine today. I'm using "Custom For Pro 1" setting with the brightness turned down a bit. Looks quite a bit like my plasma.

KahunaCanuck 11-29-2020 01:23 PM

Can't believe you are giving up on the Kuro!!! You & I bought ours at the same time!! I'm being a little sarcastic, I still have mine but it is not my frontline TV any more. Good luck with the Sony!

FRO 11-29-2020 01:29 PM

I still have my Kuro 65" I bought 12 years ago.
Still completely satisfied with the pic, although sometimes I wish it would die so I could try out an OLED 75"-80".
I'm sure there have been articles, but how does the Sony compare to LG OLED's??

PHC1 11-29-2020 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRO (Post 1023079)
I still have my Kuro 65" I bought 12 years ago.
Still completely satisfied with the pic, although sometimes I wish it would die so I could try out an OLED 75"-80".
I'm sure there have been articles, but how does the Sony compare to LG OLED's??

Hard to say. Sony and LG swap places year to year for the best TV awards. It is really a matter of personal preference. Sony buys LG panels and modifies them from what I understand.

Yes, the Kuro plasma was a fantastic tv. I miss mine although I do not miss the heat it was throwing off. :D

FRO 11-29-2020 02:48 PM

I'm sure it is just a setting on the new TV's, but I've seen a few friends' and I just cannot stand that "soap opera" effect on many.
Doesn't even look like a move!

PHC1 11-29-2020 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRO (Post 1023096)
I'm sure it is just a setting on the new TV's, but I've seen a few friends' and I just cannot stand that "soap opera" effect on many.
Doesn't even look like a move!

I know exactly what you mean. My LG does not suffer from that in itself but keep in mind it is often the new Hollywood move to digital and away from film..

FRO 11-29-2020 02:56 PM

Big SALE - haha!!
98” tv’s for $50k off!

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...campaign=verge

prepress 12-05-2020 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KahunaCanuck (Post 1023077)
Can't believe you are giving up on the Kuro!!! You & I bought ours at the same time!! I'm being a little sarcastic, I still have mine but it is not my frontline TV any more. Good luck with the Sony!

If I had a 60" Kuro, the Sony wouldn't be here. My prime motivation was a bigger screen, so here we are. But if I'd had room I would have kept the Kuro for sure. This is a 1BR apartment and I have too much stuff as is.

The first thing I did was turn down the brightness to 10. It's much more watchable now. It's not a bright room, and I have sensitive eyes, so the 30 setting out of the box was WAY too much. The A9G bears a much greater resemblance to the Kuro now, though the blacks are actually deeper(!).

One thing I wonder about is what appears to be crushed whites in video content, notably live sports. Noticed it for the first time watching the Dolphins/Jets game last weekend. The sideline benches and boundary markers were solid white pretty much. Saw it again last night watching 2015 Mets highlights; the white uniforms had a similar look. Will need to explore that further. I haven't noticed it with the few BDs i've played so far, so maybe it's the cable box that's the culprit.

Stahle 12-05-2020 01:38 PM

Sony XBR77A9G
 
Just asking but is there a tv out there now being produced that has a better picture than the pioneer elite plasma?

I happened to be in the market for a tv right when Pioneer stopped production of their elite plasma TVs and was able to pick up a 50” model. That was about ten years ago and it’s still going strong but I’m thinking about getting a new 65” tv at some point but can’t find anything I like better than the plasma.

bart 12-05-2020 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stahle (Post 1024013)
Just asking but is there a tv out there now being produced that has a better picture than the pioneer elite plasma?

I happened to be in the market for a tv right when Pioneer stopped production of their elite plasma TVs and was able to pick up a 50” model. That was about ten years ago and it’s still going strong but I’m thinking about getting a new 65” tv at some point but can’t find anything I like better than the plasma.


We still have our 50" and 60" Kuros going (very) strong.
No intention to change them, we simply don't watch enough TV/Netflix/Blu-rays.
For quite a long time, I didn't find the newer TVs better than our Kuro.
But since really good 4K TVs are being produced, I have to admit they clearly beat our beloved Pioneers.
Just like FRO, I secretly sometimes hope our Kuro will die to try out a 65" OLED... :D

Stahle 12-05-2020 03:43 PM

Which one would you recommend because I might want to get a larger tv this coming year? Is the Sony one of the best?

PHC1 12-05-2020 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stahle (Post 1024044)
Which one would you recommend because I might want to get a larger tv this coming year? Is the Sony one of the best?

LG or Sony. Can't go wrong. They are 1st or 2nd and swap places year to year.

bart 12-05-2020 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHC1 (Post 1024051)
LG or Sony. Can't go wrong. They are 1st or 2nd and swap places year to year.


Samsung, Panasonic and Philips also get very good reviews.
Sharp a bit less.

prepress 12-05-2020 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart (Post 1024030)
We still have our 50" and 60" Kuros going (very) strong.
No intention to change them, we simply don't watch enough TV/Netflix/Blu-rays.
For quite a long time, I didn't find the newer TVs better than our Kuro.
But since really good 4K TVs are being produced, I have to admit they clearly beat our beloved Pioneers.
Just like FRO, I secretly sometimes hope our Kuro will die to try out a 65" OLED... :D

I was there for about a year, maybe a bit more. I get it, believe me!

prepress 01-09-2021 07:15 AM

For the audio, I find the "Music" mode works best so far. I've been using it for a couple of weeks now, and I like it. Brightness is set to 15, which does well in my not-so-bright room; I got away with the 10 setting, but on some material thought it should be turned up a bit. Everything related to any audio sync is turned off. In fact, anything I don't need is turned off (or will be, if I find one I missed).

May play with settings more eventually, but I am liking these settings so far.

robfine 01-09-2021 11:50 AM

I have a Panasonic 50” plasma in what used to be my library and is now my wife’s office [I took over my daughter’s bedroom when she graduated and move to NYC for a new job]. In my new room I have an LG OLED 65 CX. The sound on the Panasonic started to go but not the picture so I got my wife a JBL Bluetooth speaker which has worked out great (the LG’s sound mostly comes through KT-120 tubes). The LG’s picture is really incredible. That said, the Panasonic’s picture is not a lesser one. The color is right up there with the LG but the resolution is a big less sharp (not necessarily a bad thing, especially on movies). A really good but imperfect analogy would be comparing really good SS with really good (and non-syruppy) tubes. Neither one is lacking, just a touch different. When I am watching one I don’t feel the need to switch to the other.

Dynophile 02-08-2021 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRO (Post 1023096)
I'm sure it is just a setting on the new TV's, but I've seen a few friends' and I just cannot stand that "soap opera" effect on many.
Doesn't even look like a move!

The soap opera effect on these new OLEDs is why I still keep my Kuro. I love that organic and film like picture on the Kuro. It's a real treat when watching a movie feels like a movie. Even the newest Marvel movies look like film on a Kuro. Despite all this praise I have for the Kuro, sometimes I am torn because my Kuro only has a 50 inch screen size.

W9TR 02-09-2021 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynophile (Post 1031902)
The soap opera effect on these new OLEDs is why I still keep my Kuro. I love that organic and film like picture on the Kuro. It's a real treat when watching a movie feels like a movie. Even the newest Marvel movies look like film on a Kuro. Despite all this praise I have for the Kuro, sometimes I am torn because my Kuro only has a 50 inch screen size.



I’ve seen the soap opera effect on pretty much every LCD TV I’ve seen lately, but never on an OLED. Must be mis-calibrated or confusing Damsung’s QLED marketing BS for OLED.

Dynophile 02-09-2021 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W9TR (Post 1031908)
I’ve seen the soap opera effect on pretty much every LCD TV I’ve seen lately, but never on an OLED. Must be mis-calibrated or confusing Damsung’s QLED marketing BS for OLED.

It was definitely an OLED. Can't remember if it was LG or Sony. They were playing Guardians of the Galaxy on 4K disc. Black levels were superb in their demo loop.
I was watching the soap opera effect in disbelief thinking it had to be a calibration issue.
Of course it was at Best Buy/Magnolia and I don't think they properly calibrate their displays.

edit- I don't mean to say anything too negative about Best Buy/Magnolia. I bought my two Pioneer Elite plasmas from them. Just I wouldn't use their geek squad to calibrate my tvs.

doggiehowser 02-09-2021 02:18 AM

You can definitely disable the frame interpolation - or you can use the black frame insertion to keep the 24fps look

Dynophile 02-09-2021 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doggiehowser (Post 1031912)
You can definitely disable the frame interpolation - or you can use the black frame insertion to keep the 24fps look

Great. Thank you. I will keep this recommendation in mind next time I'm looking at an OLED.

doggiehowser 02-09-2021 09:06 AM

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/5/1...izio-sony-roku

MotionFlow

Sony makes a number of different TV models, and so the method to use in order to turn off motion smoothing — which Sony calls “Motionflow” — can differ depending on your set. On many models, you can go to “picture settings,” “picture & display,” “picture adjustments,” and then “Motionflow” to turn it off. In some Sony TVs, from “picture adjustments,” you’ll have to go to “advanced settings” first, and then to “Motionflow.”

prepress 02-11-2021 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doggiehowser (Post 1031920)
https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/5/1...izio-sony-roku

MotionFlow

Sony makes a number of different TV models, and so the method to use in order to turn off motion smoothing — which Sony calls “Motionflow” — can differ depending on your set. On many models, you can go to “picture settings,” “picture & display,” “picture adjustments,” and then “Motionflow” to turn it off. In some Sony TVs, from “picture adjustments,” you’ll have to go to “advanced settings” first, and then to “Motionflow.”

Now that you mention it, I think my MotionFlow is off. Maybe i should double-check. I haven't noticed any soap opera effect, though.

Dynophile 03-02-2021 01:30 AM

Bought the A9G in 77 inch size today. Delivery is set for several weeks out. I also plan to have it calibrated. I went through all the mental stuff before finally deciding to divorce from my Kuro.

prepress 03-02-2021 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynophile (Post 1033910)
Bought the A9G in 77 inch size today. Delivery is set for several weeks out. I also plan to have it calibrated. I went through all the mental stuff before finally deciding to divorce from my Kuro.

Same here. The circumstances fell just right finally, and so here I am! I have a 65" though; no room (or real desire) for bigger.

schneice 03-03-2021 11:14 AM

Quite a trend. Held out with my Kuro until earlier this year. Finally felt on net that the A9G was better. If nothing else the menus and apps are so fast. Rare to have a electronics product that I did t feel the need to upgrade for a decade.

prepress 03-04-2021 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schneice (Post 1034002)
Quite a trend. Held out with my Kuro until earlier this year. Finally felt on net that the A9G was better. If nothing else the menus and apps are so fast. Rare to have a electronics product that I did t feel the need to upgrade for a decade.

I bought my Kuro in July 2008, so I got 12.3 years from it. My previous TV, a Sony 27" XBR, lasted 16!

I think I have the A9G settings where I want them pretty much, now. I'm using the "Music" setting for sound. What other settings are good for audio, if anyone has other ideas, and why?


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