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FreddieFerric 02-17-2019 02:13 PM

'Splain This To Me
 
Why should I invest $260 for a set of vinyl records that are mastered from digital. From the original master tapes, to 24/192 digital files, then back to vinyl. A process I've never agreed with. :no:

It seems certain to me this project was designed for CD or SACD. It makes more sense to me to buy the CD set for $75 and then record them to analog tape and save a small fortune in the process. But then, why would I even do that? :scratch2:

https://www.musicdirect.com/vinyl/Jo...yl-8LP-Box-Set)

Cohibaman 02-17-2019 02:14 PM

+1

W9TR 02-17-2019 02:46 PM

For only $260 you get to experience the higher intrinsic distortion and noise of vinyl playback. That, along with the increased inconvenience of spinning vinyl make this a no brainer. :)

But seriously, if you have a tweaked vinyl rig you like the sound of, and you like the tactile experience of handling physical media, and you like full sized album art, then why not?

Tom

vegaracer1 02-18-2019 09:26 PM

More cool toys to play with.
When I was young I had a Baseball glove ,bat and ball and I had a football a helmet and shoulder pads.
Also had a basketball and a pair of Chuck Taylors.
I loved them all.
Why not.

j3brow 02-18-2019 11:06 PM

'Splain This To Me
 
I have many fantastic sounding LPs that were sourced from hi res digital, both native digital recordings and native analog recordings.

If sounds good, it is good IMO. I don’t care about provenance when my ears are happy.

Of course, if it’s a native analog recording, like the Coltrane you referenced, I agree keeping it all analog is optimum but it’s not always practical .... but by all means give us, the consumer, the choice to purchase on vinyl even if digitally sourced.

It’s a buyer beware world, we can’t assume any newly pressed LP has analog mastering just like we can’t assume any analog mastered album will have great mastering choices or a mechanically perfect pressing!!

Formerly YB-2 02-19-2019 08:38 AM

In the end, I only care how it sounds. Just ordered the 2018 remastered 'White Album' to compare to the 2 originals in my library (one of which is my wife's). Should be an interesting comparison.

clpetersen 02-19-2019 10:11 AM

Vinyl form digital masters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreddieFerric (Post 953677)
Why should I invest $260 for a set of vinyl records that are mastered from digital. From the original master tapes, to 24/192 digital files, then back to vinyl. A process I've never agreed with. :no:

....

https://www.musicdirect.com/vinyl/Jo...yl-8LP-Box-Set)

Edited: fixed link

Good question. This is from a previous post:

"Question came up - almost all new masters are digital from which both vinyl and digital recordings are produced.

So why consider vinyl at all - especially for new material?"

Well, there are reasons to consider:
https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-a...gital-releases

Mikado463 02-19-2019 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreddieFerric (Post 953677)
Why should I invest $260 for a set of vinyl records that are mastered from digital. From the original master tapes, to 24/192 digital files, then back to vinyl. A process I've never agreed with. :no:

It seems certain to me this project was designed for CD or SACD. It makes more sense to me to buy the CD set for $75 and then record them to analog tape and save a small fortune in the process. But then, why would I even do that? :scratch2:

https://www.musicdirect.com/vinyl/Jo...yl-8LP-Box-Set)

are you sure they weren't in fact sourced from the master tapes (analog) ?

which box set are you referring to ?

CRJCapt 03-01-2019 06:43 PM

Don't do it.

It will suck ass....................

Buy this.

https://www.analogplanet.com/content...ago-souled-out

FreddieFerric 03-02-2019 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRJCapt (Post 955581)
Don't do it.

It will suck ass....................

Buy this.

https://www.analogplanet.com/content...ago-souled-out

So, I see MD took the original link I posted and turned it into something else. What a bunch of jerk weeds. :no:

And, BTW, I've never been a big MG fan and passed on the latest greatest reissue.

Beet Farmer 03-02-2019 10:02 PM

Almost all (at least 95%) of my many thousands of LPs were purchased used in the "Long Play Great Depression" of 1995 to 2010... Dirt cheap perfect condition LPs..
Now I would buy, if buying... CDs. Since CDs are now the useless dirt cheap castoff of the current age of music.
Soon enough, (but most likely after I am dead and gone,) CDs also will suddenly become marvelous wonders again. Most likely when the Major Music controllers think they have a total LOCK on music playing and start the big squeeze on folks wallets to play music, any music at all.
At that point folks who still have media and not just vapor, (even vapor they think they own but alas, vanished like... well vapor....) will rejoice and thank their lucky stars.
Just my bet on the future.

Mgrenwick 08-06-2019 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formerly YB-2 (Post 953884)
In the end, I only care how it sounds. Just ordered the 2018 remastered 'White Album' to compare to the 2 originals in my library (one of which is my wife's). Should be an interesting comparison.

Was wondering if you ever did this and what was the outcome?

Formerly YB-2 08-07-2019 08:54 PM

As sad as it is, have to admit that I have not. We have been traveling so much (as I type next to the pool in Naples, FL) that I've only had one or two 'serious' listening sessions in the intervening time. Likely will not be until October before I'm able to do so again. Been a great year for travel....... but not so much for listening (other than casually).

tima 08-08-2019 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreddieFerric (Post 953677)
Why should I invest $260 for a set of vinyl records that are mastered from digital. From the original master tapes, to 24/192 digital files, then back to vinyl. A process I've never agreed with. :no:

It seems certain to me this project was designed for CD or SACD. It makes more sense to me to buy the CD set for $75 and then record them to analog tape and save a small fortune in the process. But then, why would I even do that? :scratch2:

https://www.musicdirect.com/vinyl/Jo...yl-8LP-Box-Set)

Just buy records without barcodes.

Or use a different format.

Playing records is not for everyone.

CRJCapt 08-08-2019 01:48 PM

I bought the new Abby Roads mastered Police album.

Mastered at 192k.

36 dollars US is “All analog” money. An orginal copy probably beats it.

Don’t bother.

djwhog 08-08-2019 06:20 PM

Well are not many of the better studios doing the re-creations from the original master tapes direct to vinyl? I know I have read that too.

Only other option is own a mega to end reel 2 reel and there are a very limited number of masters that are copies of the master tapes. I have heard that, and like on a $20k reel deck and the masters were over $1000+ for one album.

So all this excess... well for some :) still there are qualities regardless of the total signal to noise ratios, frequency total ranges etc that vinyl will do better, it is just a warmer, smoother, tube like less ear fatiguing sound on all the right gear with a great record done right.

But with in reason $ Vs $ digital is a great value and a fantastic quality. so you will get no ill will from me. I own them all ... name the format.. And a lot of times it comes down to how good was the very 1st studio or live set of tracks that were laid down?

It is hard to make something after 30-50 years for example from the masters sound better, I mean I guess if you COLOR it modify it etc.

Now you can clean up some noise, make sure cross channel separation, loudness, compression etc. Every format can apply all of this, timbre and more.

Anyway would like to know what you end up with, and if someone does get both formats it would be nice to read a review. :thumbsup:

djwhog 08-08-2019 06:25 PM

From another thread, hope this will help and we can all help. :)

https://vinylreviews.com/

New Vinyl Quality Review Website

bing! 08-12-2019 09:54 PM

It's not how its recorded, but how its played back.

Open your mind. Playback is another endeavor entirely.

Vinyl playback vs. CD is similar to two different amplifiers, or a different DAC, or set of speakers. Its the same information, but something changes in the playback chain, and that makes all the difference.

Dont fight it. Just enjoy what you do.


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