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krelldog 06-03-2021 07:11 PM

Aurender N100 to a N10?
 
Just curious as to how much of an improvement upgrading from the N100 to the N10 would be ?

I've been stunned at the improvement from my Mac Mini to the Aurender N100C.

Has anyone made the above mentioned (N100 toN10 ) upgrade...if you have, what are your thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

krelldog

George Prentice 06-04-2021 02:29 AM

Expect a similar increase again N100 —> N10 and again N10 —> W20SE... each is substantial and profound, absolutely nothing subtle about the improvements between these. I own a N100, auditioned a N10... and have been so thankful I just closed my eyes and bought a W20SE. It is the most profoundly game changing piece of equipment I have ever owned. It brought audiophile streaming into parallel with vinyl. The vinyl in my system has a very small and not significant better detail. I listen to streaming over 90% of the time and listen to music two or three times more than I used to. And importantly, I only listened to local content a couple times (on the internal drive) when you have cd or better quality streaming why would you? Well, I don’t any more.

Puma Cat 06-04-2021 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Prentice (Post 1039409)
Expect a similar increase again N100 —> N10 and again N10 —> W20SE... each is substantial and profound, absolutely nothing subtle about the improvements between these. I own a N100, auditioned a N10... and have been so thankful I just closed my eyes and bought a W20SE. It is the most profoundly game changing piece of equipment I have ever owned. It brought audiophile streaming into parallel with vinyl. The vinyl in my system has a very small and not significant better detail. I listen to streaming over 90% of the time and listen to music two or three times more than I used to.

I would agree, but you don't have to make the big jump from N10 to W20SE. You could get the N20, instead.

I just had an N20 here for a month, and....it's killer. It's really, really, good. REALLY good. And...almost half the cost of an W20SE.

PMCH 06-04-2021 12:17 PM

I went to my dealer to purchase the N100 since I was new to streaming, but my wife wanted to hear the N10 to compare. We purchased the N10. I have since moved up to the W20SE which I love but at a significant expense over the N10.

mcpaf76 06-04-2021 12:50 PM

I didn't directly compare the N10 and N100, but I did a pretty long audition with the N10/A10, and I did hear enough of a difference to justify going up to the N10(Plus cost of external Dac) . When I did the comparison I used both the internal Dac in the A10 and then a direct comparison using digital out of both to the same DAC. I would imagine the difference between the N100/N10 would be comparable if not slightly more noticeable. By the way I think my N10 sounds incredible.

George Prentice 06-06-2021 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMCH (Post 1039416)
I went to my dealer to purchase the N100 since I was new to streaming, but my wife wanted to hear the N10 to compare. We purchased the N10. I have since moved up to the W20SE which I love but at a significant expense over the N10.

What can I say... you said it all. My story isnít much different... I got the N100 for my headphone system and went to listen to a N10 and ended up with a W20SE... took streaming from ok just behind spinning a CD to audiophile level.

gds7368 06-13-2021 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Prentice (Post 1039409)
Expect a similar increase again N100 ó> N10 and again N10 ó> W20SE... each is substantial and profound, absolutely nothing subtle about the improvements between these. I own a N100, auditioned a N10... and have been so thankful I just closed my eyes and bought a W20SE. It is the most profoundly game changing piece of equipment I have ever owned. It brought audiophile streaming into parallel with vinyl. The vinyl in my system has a very small and not significant better detail. I listen to streaming over 90% of the time and listen to music two or three times more than I used to. And importantly, I only listened to local content a couple times (on the internal drive) when you have cd or better quality streaming why would you? Well, I donít any more.



I had a N10 in house for an extended demo and really liked it, so I took the plunge and bought the W20SE sight unseen. A big step up from the N10. Listening now, really crystal clear. Havenít heard a N20 or 30.

George Prentice 06-25-2021 07:59 PM

Congradulations! Honestly this unit completely changed my perspective on digital and streaming… finally streaming is satisfying. It was others here on AA who’s posts convinced me to take the plunge unheard as well.

Projectman 08-01-2021 10:13 AM

I went from an N100H to an N10 a couple of years ago. To me, in my system, there was a small increase in sound quality but nothing close to a big jump.

If you have a highly resolving system than I’m sure there could be a big jump but there wasn’t in my system so I sold the N10. Again, in my system, and to my ears the N10 was too much money for too little gain.

sidvee 08-02-2021 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Projectman (Post 1042356)
I went from an N100H to an N10 a couple of years ago. To me, in my system, there was a small increase in sound quality but nothing close to a big jump.

If you have a highly resolving system than Iím sure there could be a big jump but there wasnít in my system so I sold the N10. Again, in my system, and to my ears the N10 was too much money for too little gain.

I read the same in another forum - directly from Aurender - especially if you use USB output. However my understanding is that the newer N200 uses different USB modules and sounds better. I own a N100H and was contemplating an upgrade to the N10, but since my sole connection is USB, I will plan to get a N200 soon.
Cheers,
Sid

Threesigma 08-17-2021 10:28 PM

I use an Aurender N10 with my dCS Bartok. I too have found USB out to be a less effective performer compared to the SPIDIF & AES/EBU out.

Using an Ideon Audio USB reclocker with the Aurender has proven to be an effective work around for me for USB.

I also did audition the N100 but found a dramatic improvement with the N10. One additional consideration is storage. With the N10 I am able to hold 8TB of music files.

scoc 08-28-2021 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidvee (Post 1042424)
I read the same in another forum - directly from Aurender - especially if you use USB output. However my understanding is that the newer N200 uses different USB modules and sounds better. I own a N100H and was contemplating an upgrade to the N10, but since my sole connection is USB, I will plan to get a N200 soon.
Cheers,
Sid

I have a brand new test N200 test unit a home to compare with my N100H.

Brand new out of the box performance is quite poor Iím afraid as it sounded flat, boring and missing drive. So, I have internet radio on repeat now to burnin the N200 but it has to improve quite a lot to get me interested. Now after 15 hours of burnin it is already a bit better but Ö I have the impression the new Aurender puts more focus on resolution and openess and by doing that some of the charm of the N100H organic sound is a bit lost. The new sound is more clean and pure but looses on the natural organic flow. I was not expecting that and I hope it improves after 50+ hours of burnin.

sidvee 08-30-2021 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoc (Post 1044109)
I have a brand new test N200 test unit a home to compare with my N100H.

Brand new out of the box performance is quite poor Iím afraid as it sounded flat, boring and missing drive. So, I have internet radio on repeat now to burnin the N200 but it has to improve quite a lot to get me interested. Now after 15 hours of burnin it is already a bit better but Ö I have the impression the new Aurender puts more focus on resolution and openess and by doing that some of the charm of the N100H organic sound is a bit lost. The new sound is more clean and pure but looses on the natural organic flow. I was not expecting that and I hope it improves after 50+ hours of burnin.

I have no opportunity to audition where I am located, so I will proceed slowly then, will try to audition first.
Cheers,
Sid

GW1800 09-29-2021 06:21 PM

I have a N30SA coming to compare it to N200 and my current W20SE unit should be epic

Audiophilehi 09-29-2021 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoc (Post 1044109)
I have a brand new test N200 test unit a home to compare with my N100H.

Brand new out of the box performance is quite poor Iím afraid as it sounded flat, boring and missing drive. So, I have internet radio on repeat now to burnin the N200 but it has to improve quite a lot to get me interested. Now after 15 hours of burnin it is already a bit better but Ö I have the impression the new Aurender puts more focus on resolution and openess and by doing that some of the charm of the N100H organic sound is a bit lost. The new sound is more clean and pure but looses on the natural organic flow. I was not expecting that and I hope it improves after 50+ hours of burnin.


Any update?

GW1800 09-30-2021 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Projectman (Post 1042356)
I went from an N100H to an N10 a couple of years ago. To me, in my system, there was a small increase in sound quality but nothing close to a big jump.

If you have a highly resolving system than Iím sure there could be a big jump but there wasnít in my system so I sold the N10. Again, in my system, and to my ears the N10 was too much money for too little gain.

You are not going to like this but if you heard little different with the N10 itís your DAC is the weak link. Ran into a similar situation with another person once they got a better DAC they started to hear a lot of things they did not before. Sorry in advance.

JBT 09-30-2021 02:53 PM

I have the N10 now hooked up to my D1100 DAC and I never thought Digital could sound this good. Now I'm thinking about moving up to the N20 if I can get one on loan and give it a whirl.

j3brow 09-30-2021 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBT (Post 1046216)
I have the N10 now hooked up to my D1100 DAC and I never thought Digital could sound this good. Now I'm thinking about moving up to the N20 if I can get one on loan and give it a whirl.



I have the same, N10 ó-> D1100 (via AES). Agree, sounds fantastic. I also use N10 óó> Meridian 808 (USB). Prefer the 808 but the D1100 is just a hair behind, the D1100 is a great dac, crazy good for the money.

j3brow 09-30-2021 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GW1800 (Post 1046187)
I have a N30SA coming to compare it to N200 and my current W20SE unit should be epic



Oh man, I canít wait to read what you have to say. I have been wondering about upgrading N10 to N20 or N30 (big stretch).

JBT 10-01-2021 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3brow (Post 1046237)
I have the same, N10 ó-> D1100 (via AES). Agree, sounds fantastic. I also use N10 óó> Meridian 808 (USB). Prefer the 808 but the D1100 is just a hair behind, the D1100 is a great dac, crazy good for the money.

I got my N10 after reading Dan's review. Likewise my 601s. All in all a superb steamer, server or whatever it's called. :thumbsup:

j3brow 10-03-2021 05:15 PM

Aurender N100 to a N10?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBT (Post 1046298)
I got my N10 after reading Dan's review. Likewise my 601s. All in all a superb steamer, server or whatever it's called. :thumbsup:



Yes, Dan was quite influential. His 601 review lit my fire too. Ultimately, I bought Danís pair of 601ís when he moved into the MC2301ís. I am still enjoying his 601ís to this day.


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