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Kingsrule 08-29-2015 10:13 AM

What speaker cables with Magico's ?
 
Seems like most Magico set-ups I see use MIT speaker cables, including Magico's own sound room. I have never been one to use networked cables but it seems like if I move to Magico I will have to.

What are your thoughts/experience on speaker cables with Magico?

Mike1998 08-29-2015 10:22 AM

They also sound good with Shunyata cables.

marsalis 08-29-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingsrule (Post 722997)
Seems like most Magico set-ups I see use MIT speaker cables, including Magico's own sound room. I have never been one to use networked cables but it seems like if I move to Magico I will have to.

What are your thoughts/experience on speaker cables with Magico?

:confused-12: Just because Magico uses MIT, or Soulution or whatever, does not mean you have to.

Kingsrule 08-29-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marsalis (Post 723015)
:confused-12: Just because Magico uses MIT, or Soulution or whatever, does not mean you have to.


Um, really?

Still-One 08-29-2015 05:18 PM

The local Magico dealer here has his choice of MIT, Shunyata, Analysis Plus and Nordost. They always seem to use MIT and it sounds pretty good to me.

Orb 08-29-2015 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingsrule (Post 722997)
Seems like most Magico set-ups I see use MIT speaker cables, including Magico's own sound room. I have never been one to use networked cables but it seems like if I move to Magico I will have to.

What are your thoughts/experience on speaker cables with Magico?

I must say I am a bit leery of networked cables myself (but that is me being biased), regarding cable choice I would say that comes down to your preference.
For me I enjoy Crystal Cable Dreamline (managed to find ones an authorised dealer had lying around) with Magico speakers.
Probably find upper range of Siltech works similar to Crystal Cable.

Regarding Nordost, my preference would be again only their upper range for Magico speakers; say Valhalla old and new model, Tyr2 (only new model).
Cheers
Orb

analog brother 08-29-2015 08:50 PM

try purist audio

BlueFox 08-29-2015 10:23 PM

I certainly wasn't going to change cables just because I bought a better speaker. Since Shunyata Zitron cables are designed to deliver the exact output signal as the input, I stayed with the Anaconda speaker cables, and this system sounds fantastic. No need to change a thing.


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Lumin S1
Pass XP-20 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 speakers

Shunyata Triton v2/Typhon for source, Cyclops v2 (2) for amps
Shunyata Z Anaconda XLR analog ICs, Z Anaconda speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Revelation Audio Passage Cryo-Silver Reference DB-25 umbilical power cable

Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.

TLi 09-01-2015 02:28 AM

Speaker cables can affect the final sound to a large extent, particularly so with Magico. It is due to its good resolving power and less coloration.

I have tried many different highend speaker cables for my M Project. They include Norodst Odin 1 and Odin 2, Taralabs Grand Master Evolution, Audioquest Wel Signature, Vertere Pulse X and Wireworld Platinum Eclipse 7.

They all have its own character and have some separate strong area. At the end of day, it really depends on what you prefer. No single wire can satisfy everyone. I can only summarize some of the main features of some cables.

Odin1 / Odin2: Very detailed sound, particularly so with Odin2. Fine imaging and sound stage is pushed backward. Bass is bouncy but light, not for heavy metal lovers.

Audioquest Wel Signature: Overall nice balance, but bass is a bit soft.

Taralabs GME: Very thick sound. Bass is the heaviest of all but that offset the tonal balance. Treble is a little dim and imaging is not very strong.

Vertere Pulse-X: Nice midrange, vocal is real life but the upper and lower octave expansion is not as good as other in this group.

Wireworld Platinum Eclipse 7: The top two on my list, the other is Odin 2. It matches will well with Magico. Being a sealed box speaker, the bass can be a little light. Wireworld compensate on it making a very balance sound picture.

After testing, I am now keeping Odin 2 and Wireworld for my own use.

Kingsrule 09-01-2015 10:02 AM

TLi, Orb, Still-One

Thank you for your detailed responses

cmarin 09-03-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TLi (Post 723494)
Speaker cables can affect the final sound to a large extent, particularly so with Magico. It is due to its good resolving power and less coloration. I have tried many different highend speaker cables for my M Project. They include Norodst Odin 1 and Odin 2, Taralabs Grand Master Evolution, Audioquest Wel Signature, Vertere Pulse X and Wireworld Platinum Eclipse 7. They all have its own character and have some separate strong area. At the end of day, it really depends on what you prefer. No single wire can satisfy everyone. I can only summarize some of the main features of some cables. Odin1 / Odin2: Very detailed sound, particularly so with Odin2. Fine imaging and sound stage is pushed backward. Bass is bouncy but light, not for heavy metal lovers. Audioquest Wel Signature: Overall nice balance, but bass is a bit soft. Taralabs GME: Very thick sound. Bass is the heaviest of all but that offset the tonal balance. Treble is a little dim and imaging is not very strong. Vertere Pulse-X: Nice midrange, vocal is real life but the upper and lower octave expansion is not as good as other in this group. Wireworld Platinum Eclipse 7: The top two on my list, the other is Odin 2. It matches will well with Magico. Being a sealed box speaker, the bass can be a little light. Wireworld compensate on it making a very balance sound picture. After testing, I am now keeping Odin 2 and Wireworld for my own use.

I've tried a number of ICs and speaker cables including top of the line Synergistic Research Galileo, Vovox, Omnia Echole, Argento, MIT and custom made cables by 512 Engineering. Yes I agree with TLi, they all affect the final sound of the speakers, the Magico Q7mkII in my case. But in my experience no cables are perfect and no one cable is best under all circumstances and value propositions. At the top end, each cable has its strengths and weaknesses. And it will ultimately come down to your personal preferences, system compatability, and cost to value ratio.

imprezap2 09-04-2015 05:59 AM

My V3's and Accuphase E-600 have a very good synergy with NBS Omega Extreme I.
Bass is very deep and mid and highs are silky smooth, large soundstage and excellent resolution.

Negative point of these cables is that they are heavy and stiff, have to support them so that not all the weight is taken by the amp connections.

Kingsrule 09-09-2015 09:02 AM

With Magico using MIT cables in their factory sound room why would you use anything else with your Magico's? You have to agree that Magico's are voiced with MIT.....

jghazal 09-13-2015 08:19 AM

What about Kharma cables? Anybody tried the extreme signature with Magico?

Thanks

MadFloyd 09-21-2015 11:52 AM

I found the midbass too lean with MIT and my M-Pros so I switched to Kubala Sosna Elations and I'm very happy with them.

audiomania 10-18-2015 04:02 PM

I'm probably the only one here who would do this but if I found myself with a pair of Magico S3's in the future I would use the same cables I do today which are...wait for it...wait for it....

Mogami 2921 The Horror!! :eek2:

I use Mogami everywhere. No Salt/Pepper/Unicorn hide or Pixie dust added or needed. It does its job just fine and the money saved goes towards things that offer unmistakable audible advantages like speakers,amps,DAC's..etc

parkcaka 05-27-2017 05:59 AM

I think tuned Transparent Audio cables (XL series and above) are great match for Magicos. Some people do not like the full neutrality, transparency and detail of Magicos (some love it) with certain kind of music. I think TA cables tames Magicos in those areas and suits me better.

kzhtoo 05-27-2017 12:10 PM

Magico doesn't need taming. You just need low noise floor from your system for them to shine.

Spinpsycho 07-05-2017 08:57 PM

RadioShack 18-gauge Speaker Cable will work fine.

Masterlu 07-05-2017 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinpsycho (Post 854568)
RadioShack 18-gauge Speaker Cable will work fine.

:rolleyes:

bradleyc 07-05-2017 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinpsycho (Post 854568)
RadioShack 18-gauge Speaker Cable will work fine.



Radio Shack is out of business unless you want a Sprint phone :D

Spinpsycho 07-05-2017 09:44 PM

What is the use of High-end speaker cables, when the quality of speakers internal cabling is inferior than the speaker cables that is used to connect to the amps to the speakers. Shouldn't the internal speaker cable in most if not all speaker brands be upgraded to a similar high-end quality?

Masterlu 07-05-2017 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinpsycho (Post 854577)
What is the use of High-end speaker cables, when the quality of speakers internal cabling is inferior than the speaker cables that is used to connect to the amps to the speakers. Shouldn't the internal speaker cable in most if not all speaker brands be upgraded to a similar high-end quality. I doubt that speaker manufacturers are even spending hundreds of dollars on internal wire!

Sorry... wrong thread, wrong forum.

Spinpsycho 07-05-2017 10:16 PM

Your right.

Masterlu 07-05-2017 10:33 PM

^^^ Mogadishu, Somalia... more like San Mateo, CA. :whistle:

Spinpsycho 07-05-2017 10:57 PM

Yes I'm on leave:cheerstoast:

docmd2010 10-13-2017 11:27 AM

I’m fact you are incorrect. High end speakers use high quality cabling. Wilson Alexx uses transparent opus cabling for their internal cabling. Want to buy a 8 foot pair of opus speaker cables? It’s 40k a pair.

Mikado463 10-13-2017 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by docmd2010 (Post 871858)
Want to buy a 8 foot pair of opus speaker cables? It’s 40k a pair.

:scratch2: :icon_thumbsdown: :no:

docmd2010 10-13-2017 12:19 PM

Lol my thoughts too!

metaphacts 10-14-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by docmd2010 (Post 871858)
I’m fact you are incorrect. High end speakers use high quality cabling. Wilson Alexx uses transparent opus cabling for their internal cabling. Want to buy a 8 foot pair of opus speaker cables? It’s 40k a pair.

The Wilson Alexx uses raw Transparent Opus Cable. That is, the internal conductors only. It is chosen for absolute consistency. Cables are twisted based on specific application within the speaker.

Descartes 10-16-2017 02:33 AM

On my S5 I use Kubala&Sosna Emotion.....no words....they are simply perfect for them.


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