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mulveling 03-21-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1035324)
The Tannoy Canterbury GRs have impressed me greatly. I've spend numerous hours at the dealer immersed in the special sound driven with base VTL pre and monoblocks via streaming.
I've hand clapped at the end of numerous tracks as they sounded so superb, virtually 10/10.

I only wish I could listen at home and compare them to my Sonus Faber Amati Futuras.

I also like the latest styling of the Tannoy Kingdom Royal.

Anthony

Nice! I hope you get a chance to enjoy them in your home someday :) Sometimes my girlfriend will clap with the recorded audience at the end of live tracks. It's a great feeling for me lol.

I've only had 'em 3.5 years, and nobody has reason to trust any of my "this is the last <such and such> I'm buying" assertions, but these could quite possibly be my "speakers for life". With the SE model I'd have these hot & cold sessions where they seemed stellar for a while, then "not so much" for a little bit, rinse repeat. It was also a bit of a struggle finding a steady system balance, mixing in new gear "now it's too bright" then "oops now it's too dark again!". 5 years of that. The SE were beautiful speakers, but a flawed gem for me. The GR have been 100% of the time a stellar experience from day #1. The GR naturally hits a "musical neutral" for me, as opposed to the SE which I felt were a bit on the dark side (hence the gear matching struggles). And they LOVE the VAC tube gear. Tannoy absolutely nailed it with the GR version.

mulveling 03-21-2021 12:59 PM

Here's the system as of today. As you can see, my system has been hitting the gym pretty hard these few years, lol. Compare to the pic at start of this thread. Also the Canterburys have darkened nicely. Actually, I put in an order of three Critical Mass Systems Black Platinum shelves & spike sets for the tube amps & power conditioner. As you can see, the full CMS amp stands would eat up my path to the turntable - but the shelves and spikes alone will be a big upgrade. The VACs deserve better than hockey pucks! The Niagara sits on a lone Lovan Sovereign shelf, man those are truly awful racks to put a nice turntable on. The CMS stuff is so dreamy. Glad I got over the hump of "I would have to be CRAZY to spend $18K on a rack". So I guess I'm crazy :)

https://i.imgur.com/7ybuFBE.jpg

Weirdcuba 03-21-2021 01:33 PM

You’ve been busy. Must sound fabulous. I love Tannoy and am glad to see them still kicking.

mulveling 03-21-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Weirdcuba (Post 1035349)
You’ve been busy. Must sound fabulous. I love Tannoy and am glad to see them still kicking.

Thank you sir! It sounds SO good now. This system is the default "weekend plans" for my girlfriend and me.

Didn't you own an Innovation Wood? I was mounting a new-to-me Ortofon A90 Friday, and noticed how loose the aluminum cylinders had gotten over time. Man that was my whole Friday evening tearing down the Innovation Master and figuring out how to re-tighten everything "just so". I'm gonna have to keep on top of this every few months or so.

Weirdcuba 03-21-2021 04:40 PM

My Innovation Wood went dead on me and is currently with Clear Audio for repair. You are the third person I have heard of that had to re-tighten everything. Mine seemed to be a Motor problem, which drove me nuts. I replaced it - I can’t figure out how to link to it from here, but search for the thread with the words “svelte 180” in the title to read about the replacement (yes, it weighs 180 pounds).

tano.longo 04-22-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PHC1 (Post 1034089)
Did not notice this post so it is probably way too late nearly a year later to be useful but could be useful for others I guess. I had Sandringhams, Kensington and Canterburry SEs in a room that was approximately 15x18 feet. Do not hesitate to go with Canterburry but not much smaller than those dimensions as they do like some room to breathe. Both the Sandringhams and Kensingtons are absolutely fine in rooms even smaller.

All very enjoyable speakers with the Canterburry being able to provide a larger, more vivid and lifelike presentation with more palpable and focused imaging and purity of tone. Of course they were much more $ than the other pairs.

in your opinion, do you recommend the change from a kensington se to a canterbury se? where will the benefits be? they have the same midrange, only the woofer changes.

Masterlu 04-22-2021 06:21 PM

tano.longo... Welcome to AA! :wave:

tano.longo 04-28-2021 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tano.longo (Post 1037243)
in your opinion, do you recommend the change from a kensington se to a canterbury se? where will the benefits be? they have the same midrange, only the woofer changes.

I ask for your help. I am in great difficulty and I am afraid of being overwhelmed. the room is 32 cubic meters

mulveling 04-28-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tano.longo (Post 1037548)
I ask for your help. I am in great difficulty and I am afraid of being overwhelmed. the room is 32 cubic meters

32 cubic meters!? Exactly how many American bald eagle surface areas is that??

Ok, for real though that's what - something roughly like a room 12 feet x 10 feet x 8 feet, right? That is a very small room for speakers of the Kensington/Canterbury size! I would also have concerns of being overwhelmed, very much so. The Kensington might work OK, but I'd definitely look at something even more compact (e.g. Stirlings / Sandringhams). Also look monitor speakers (Fyne Audio makes some nice ones with the Tannoy-style dual concentric). Maybe even the Autograph Mini GR :)

mulveling 04-28-2021 12:03 PM

So update - I have to sheepishly admit a friend lent me a Solid State amplifier last week, and I absolutely fell in love with it. It's been so long since I moved on from SS to tube amps, and I hadn't earnestly tried a SS amp in my system for over 10 years now. It sounds to me like...the Canterbury GR actually prefer a SS driver over tubes, as good as those 200iQ are :o

The amp is a Phison A2 120SE. I would never, in a million years, have come to this amp on my own and thought: "this is something I need to try". There is only sparse information about it online. But it's kinda blowing me away. It's also a phenomenal match with the new VAC Master preamp. Adrenaline and detail, without the fatigue (long & loud sessions no problem). It's like it woke up the system by an extra amount I didn't even know was there to be had. Because my primary cables were cut specifically for monoblocks, and this Phison is being run as a stereo unit, I've also had to run it much cheaper speaker cables ($1000 AQ Rocket 88 vs. my usual $10K double Kilimanjaro run) and unhook the supertweeters for my listening so far. Didn't seem to hold it back a bit!!

Well so much for being a lifelong tube snob (I still love them tho).

Here's the mess I've made of my system now - Phison is the silver box in the middle.
https://i.imgur.com/53s9BVj.jpg


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