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Rod#S 12-12-2011 01:56 PM

Wireworld owners pictures - how flexible are your cables?
 
Hello;

I was wondering if some of you Wire World owners would mind posting some pictures of your Wire World speaker cables in use, particluaraly the Eclipse/Silver Eclipse/Gold Eclipse/Platinum Eclipse and power cables? As a perspective buyer I'm trying to get an appreciation for how flexible or lack thereof they are compared to standard round cables. I'm just concerned that if they don't bend enough connecting and placing them behind the close quarters of my gear could be problematic.

Thanks,

Rod

-E- 12-12-2011 02:51 PM

Depends on how you try to bend them. Side-to-side; no.

Top-to-bottom (creating a flat "loop"), no problem.

Best to just have them precise-cut the lengths you need.

BlueChiaro 12-12-2011 02:58 PM

Ron, this should give you a good idea on the power cords...they are VERY flexible (as compared to others, anyway). I can't speak for the speaker cables, yet.

In the picture, below, you will see the twisted silver power cord into the rear of my CD player. At the very bottom, you see the black power connectors which come out of the REF Phono 2...probably pretty similar to what a traditional power could would do. Also, take note of the WW power cable going into the wall outlet...try doing that with some others. :no: Actually, I didn't realize it was so contorted, but I just removed a bunch of cables, and it must have gotten moved in the process. FYI, these are Silver Electra 5.2 cords, I believe.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...3715354073.jpg

BlueChiaro 12-12-2011 03:05 PM

FYI, the one at the wall isn't quite as contorted as it appears in that other photo...here is a better representation of what it's doing:

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...-54-57_621.jpg

Masterlu 12-12-2011 03:15 PM

I think I can post a few later... :p

bzr 12-12-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239163)
I think I can post a few later... :p

...I hope you've fixed that errant cord seen from the front of your set-up, just the thought of seeing that again......

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...zr_/crying.jpg

asindc 12-12-2011 05:14 PM

I have all WW power cords in my setup and they are the most flexible power cords I've ever used.

Puma Cat 12-12-2011 05:31 PM

I have three WW power cords and they quite flexible and easy to dress; I use them in "non-mission critical" applications, e.g. for powering home theatre gear, TVs, blu-ray players as they provide good performance. They are a good-sounding PC which also have beautiful quality connectors and plugs. For mission-critical two-channel playback where sound quality is paramount, I use a Shunyata PCs (mostly Black Mambas and one Venom3), which in my experience, outperform the WW cords sonically. But the Shunyatas are quite a bit stiffer and MUCH harder to dress and snake through racks than the WW PCs, and can be an absolute bitch to work with at times, depending on the orientation of the plug to the IEC socket connector. They are also heavy and tend to pull on the IEC sockets more, which can be a problem if the component is higher up in the rack. But they really do sound fab, IMHO.

Regarding the IC's I have the Equinox 6 ICs which I think VERY highly of; they are reasonably flexible, but nowhere near as flexible and thin as my Zu Mission ICs. The WW Equinox 6s have beautiful, silver plated connectors, also. All in all, a KILLER IC for the money; one of my absolute faves.

BuffaloBill 12-12-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Puma Cat (Post 239202)

The WW Equinox 6s have beautiful, silver plated connectors, also. All in all, a KILLER IC for the money; one of my absolute faves.

Is the center pin solid or hollow (tube) copper?

Face 12-12-2011 06:45 PM

Copper.

Puma Cat 12-12-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BuffaloBill (Post 239224)
Is the center pin solid or hollow (tube) copper?

They look to be hollow, but filled, and are silver-plated.

Masterlu 12-12-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Puma Cat (Post 239202)
I have three WW power cords and they quite flexible and easy to dress; I use them in "non-mission critical" applications, e.g. for powering home theatre gear, TVs, blu-ray players as they provide good performance. They are a good-sounding PC which also have beautiful quality connectors and plugs. For mission-critical two-channel playback where sound quality is paramount, I use a Shunyata PCs (mostly Black Mambas and one Venom3), which in my experience, outperform the WW cords sonically. But the Shunyatas are quite a bit stiffer and MUCH harder to dress and snake through racks than the WW PCs, and can be an absolute bitch to work with at times, depending on the orientation of the plug to the IEC socket connector. They are also heavy and tend to pull on the IEC sockets more, which can be a problem if the component is higher up in the rack. But they really do sound fab, IMHO.

Regarding the IC's I have the Equinox 6 ICs which I think VERY highly of; they are reasonably flexible, but nowhere near as flexible and thin as my Zu Mission ICs. The WW Equinox 6s have beautiful, silver plated connectors, also. All in all, a KILLER IC for the money; one of my absolute faves.


Stephen... Which WW cables have you compared to Shunyata? I have Black Mamba's that I no longer use.

jimtranr 12-12-2011 09:11 PM

http://jimtranr.com/Electra_Equinox.JPG

Not speaker cables and not a very good photo, but it illustrates the tight quarters my WW plain-vanilla Electra 5/2 PC and Equinox 6 IC's contend with. The flat cable that looks like a leather belt is the Electra, which rises behind the massed spaghetti to connect to my line stage after a moderately tight turn.

A second Electra, not shown, connects an Oppo universal player (my digital source) to a Shunyata Hydra, again in moderately tight quarters with no apparent strain on the connectors at either end. If my other components weren't captive-corded, I "Electrafy" them as well. The Electras which I have replaced "vintage" Shunyata Sidewinders.

The somewhat "rounder" Equinoxes are about as flexible, in fact the most flexible quality IC's I've ever owned. (The Eclipses have a flatter profile, and are, along with the similarly-configured SC's, on my want-to-do list.)

Puma Cat 12-12-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239253)
Stephen... Which WW cables have you compared to Shunyata? I have Black Mamba's that I no longer use.

Silver Electra 5-squared.

Masterlu 12-12-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Puma Cat (Post 239267)
Silver Electra 5-squared.

Interesting, I preferred the SE's over the Black Mambo. :dunno:

Puma Cat 12-12-2011 09:44 PM

Just goes to show there's no accounting for taste. Are your Black Mambas the current CX version?

thebeatles67 12-12-2011 09:47 PM

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Here are a few pics of my Wireworld 5.2 Silver Electra 2.0 meter PLCs and Silver Eclipse Bi wire speaker cable. I dont have a conventional stereo rack as my equipment sits on a 15 foot custom made shelf--cables are a little crowded but I make do-- hope this helps.

Mike

chessman 12-12-2011 09:51 PM

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Here is a pic of my WireWorld IC's, SC's and PC's. The IC's are very flexible. The PC's and SC's coil easily against the broad side and not at all against the thin side.

Masterlu 12-12-2011 11:58 PM

Very busy day for me, I'll post some tomorrow. :yes:

ronenash 12-13-2011 12:01 AM

The only WW cable I have flexibility problems with is the Equinox 6 Speaker cable. I have bannana plugs on the speaker end as I tend to switch amplifiers often. The connection of the cable to the connector is not stiff enough end seems like it will break soon. Because of the cable weight this point always flexes back and forth.

Masterlu 12-13-2011 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ronenash (Post 239336)
The only WW cable I have flexibility problems with is the Equinox 6 Speaker cable. I have bannana plugs on the speaker end as I tend to switch amplifiers often. The connection of the cable to the connector is not stiff enough end seems like it will break soon. Because of the cable weight this point always flexes back and forth.

Wireworld has a lifetime warranty.

Rod#S 12-13-2011 07:49 AM

Wow! Awesome resposne everyone, thanks very much. Great info and great pictures. My setup is very similar to some of the pictures with respect to distance between the back of the gear and the wall and I'm very pleased to see your cables bend into those confines nicely. The power cords definitely appear to be as flexible if not more than my only after market power cord to date, a Kimber PK10 Gold which is a thick and heavy cable at 10 AWG and 10' long.

Rod#S 12-13-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239335)
Very busy day for me, I'll post some tomorrow. :yes:

No worries. I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures and something tells me I'm not the only one here interested ;)

Masterlu 12-13-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rod#S (Post 239417)
No worries. I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures and something tells me I'm not the only one here interested ;)

Gonna have to break out the wide angle lens. :)

Rod#S 12-13-2011 10:53 AM

I like the sounds of that :D

Rilands 12-13-2011 11:40 AM

My wireworld eclipse cables are to long for my application and they do not bend to well to tuck behind my cabinet. I bought them a few feet to long just in case i needed more length later on, i haven't needed it yet. I plan on selling them soon and tidying up my cables.
They are well built and do sound good.

Fabiano 12-13-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilands (Post 239470)
My wireworld eclipse cables are to long for my application and they do not bend to well to tuck behind my cabinet. I bought them a few feet to long just in case i needed more length later on, i haven't needed it yet. I plan on selling them soon and tidying up my cables.
They are well built and do sound good.

Can't you just reterminate them to shorter length?? I sure Wireworld can arrange something in this direction. This should be much cheaper then selling them second hand and buying the correct ones all over...
just my 2c.
rgds

Rilands 12-13-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabiano (Post 239518)
Can't you just reterminate them to shorter length?? I sure Wireworld can arrange something in this direction. This should be much cheaper then selling them second hand and buying the correct ones all over...
just my 2c.
rgds

If I were going to get the same cables your idea would be the way to go, but I'm planning on going a different direction.

Masterlu 12-13-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabiano (Post 239518)
Can't you just reterminate them to shorter length?? I sure Wireworld can arrange something in this direction. This should be much cheaper then selling them second hand and buying the correct ones all over...
just my 2c.
rgds

Fabiano... How do you like yours?

ronenash 12-14-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239344)
Wireworld has a lifetime warranty.

Thanks Ivan, that's very helpful.

Masterlu 12-14-2011 11:58 AM

Uploading some Wireworld pics now...

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:06 PM

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These were all shot with my 14~24 f2.8

The back of my C1000C

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...4&d=1323878756

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:07 PM

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The back of my Very Busy MX150

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...5&d=1323878836

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:09 PM

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One bank of Amps

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...6&d=1323878952

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...1&d=1323878578

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:13 PM

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Fan Control behind each MC2301

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...9&d=1323879159

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:16 PM

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Wider angle shots of the "Frame Room"

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...0&d=1323879234

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...1&d=1323878867

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:19 PM

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A few of the "Other Side"

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...3&d=1323879498

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...1&d=1323879128

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...1&d=1323879128

bakerman 12-14-2011 12:36 PM

It doesn't matter how many times I've seen pics of that room, it still amazes me! :yes: Btw, what are the dimensions of it?

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bakerman (Post 239857)
It doesn't matter how many times I've seen pics of that room, it still amazes me! :yes: Btw, what are the dimensions of it?

Thanks Doug... 15x18x10

EightZeroZeroDelta 12-14-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bakerman (Post 239857)
It doesn't matter how many times I've seen pics of that room, it still amazes me! :yes: Btw, what are the dimensions of it?

Could not agree more. Simply amazing.

Ivan, that wire management is impressive, given the amount needed. Not to mention all of those components in the allotted space. I don't know if you did it all at once, but how long would you say it would take to re-wire the entire wall? Like in the case of your upgrade to platinum.


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