Slap echo - Help!
 

Hello, all,

I am enjoying a system consisting of MA6600, Cremona ms, Teac CD3000, audience and Wireworld cabling, and REL 528 sub.

I'm very pleased with the sound at moderate listening levels, but when the volume goes up (40%+ on the 6600) everything falls apart. I love the sound of the Cremonas at high volume in the Magnolia sound room, but it's filled with every treatment in the book. I've noticed a significant slap echo with a standard clap test in my room. When I stand and clap, it's very noticeable.....when sitting its less noticeable, but still pronounced. Does a slap echo become more degrading to sound as the volume rises? Seems to make sense, but I wanted to get some feedback from the masters. Is room treatment the answer here? How about the Mc MEN-220?

Many thanks,
Brent

Room Treatment is needed. :yes:

Reach out to GIK they are Sponsors here, and will take great care of you!

treatments and furnishings are how i fixed that problem in my own room, it took a little time but was well worth the effort.

Now i have around 30% coverage in the room which gave me back control and got it sounding the way i wanted it.

There is lots of info out there on this topic, make sure you read up before spending a cent so you invest correctly.

hope this helps.

+100 :yes:

http://www.audioaficionado.org/gik-a...tting-off.html

I just sent an email to the folks at GIK along with 5 or 6 pics. Looking forward to hearing their ideas.

Thanks,
Brent

Pics?
 

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I had slap echo also. It has almost disappeared completely when clapping hands. It is slightly present if i hold my hands up over my head when i clap but not when i clap at speaker/listening level. This is due to my 4 ft gik panels are placed in the middle of an eight foot high wall. Enough treatment to stop slap echo up high/when standing may over damp the room and give problems to dynamics and detail.
What size is your room? Is it completely enclosed?

Here are some pics of the room. I have contacted GIK and they have already been most helpful. Now trying to figure out if I can afford some "Art Panels." Sorry about the delay on pics....it's such a pain uploading them to a photo sharing site with all of the advertising that is required to watch inbetween downloads now.

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps3235a983.jpg

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Hi Brent, I had the same problem with slap echo in my room when we moved in, but I had planned to do quite a bit of treatment once we got settled. The first thing was bookcases with plenty of books, always helps along any flat walls. I also made 3 ft. by 4 ft. acoustic panels with owens corning 703 fiberglass wrapped in a nice maroon velvety fabric and suspended them from the ceilings with about 10 inches of space. The last major thing was putting corner panels in all 4 corners of the room (where ceiling meets the walls) and panels corner mounted in the 2 corners of the room behind the speakers. All this along with a wool rug on hardwoods did wonders without deadening the room too much. Furnishings did the rest. Looks like your trick may be integrating acoustic traetment with a "family room". Do you have the freedom to do anything you want or are there restrictions? I would definitely explore room treatments before any piece of equipment unless that's not a possibility.