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frisqo 05-16-2020 08:43 AM

Accuphase rumors
 
.. there are some rumors out there of a new DG and pre amp

Accuphase DG 68
Accuphase C3900



anyone seen anything, photos, info?

Masterlu 05-16-2020 10:42 AM

Although I am not at liberty to say much, I will say you may be spot on. ;)

Nikko 05-16-2020 01:24 PM

https://www.audioaficionado.org/showthread.php?t=47118

Nikko 05-20-2020 06:46 AM

NEW Accuphase dg-68

https://www.accuphase.co.jp/model/dg-68.html

frisqo 05-20-2020 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko (Post 1005235)


this is nice to see. but when are we gonna see a new DC (dac)?
it should come this year too..... :yes::smoking::scratch2:

terrycym 05-20-2020 09:56 AM

It still uses the ES9028PRO rather than the latest DAC, the ES9038PRO

pabe12 05-20-2020 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrycym (Post 1005244)
It still uses the ES9028PRO rather than the latest DAC, the ES9038PRO

The DC950 does use the ESS9038PRO, so that DAC already exists - albeit at a price that puts it out of range for most mortals.

In the old days, the DP720 SACD player used a 9018-variant and the DC37 used that too so in essence the DC37 was very, very similar to the player's DAC section. The new DP750 uses an ESS9028PRO; so I'm kinda expecting a new DC37 based on ESS9028PRO.

terrycym 05-20-2020 10:52 AM

Which it does

meltemi 05-21-2020 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko (Post 1005235)

According to the specs published, one can expect a sonic leap forward with the DG-68 vs DG-58:

1) AD: The 8ch AD (4ch in parallel for each Stereo channel) allows for sample rates of up to 352.8 kHz (DXD), higher s/n ratio and much lower THD. (DG-58 2ch AD up to 176.4 kHz).
2) DSP: The higher calculating power of the DSP may allow for filter calculation at 352.8 kHz (DXD). (DG-58 max 176.4 kHz).
3) DSD downsampling: The downsampling from digital DSD inputs may go to 352.8 kHz (DXD). (DG-58 176.4 kHz).
4) HS-Link: HS-Link v2 supported (separate signal and clock lines). (DG-58 HS-Link v1 common signal/clock line). Advantage when used with a HS-Link v2 capable transport (i.e. DP-950).
5) DA: The DA (ES9028Pro) corresponds to the DA of the DP-750. (DG-58 ES9018S corresponds to the DA of the DP-720).

As one can see, there are much more changes built into the DG-68 than just the DA (critisized by some).
A room correction presumably working at 352.8 kHz (DXD). Respect.
The package as a whole makes the difference !

Using a DP-950 transport (without DC-950 DA) plus DG-68 would make a lot of sense to me.

Martin

TOGA 05-21-2020 12:12 PM

http://www.avcat.jp/main/avnews/2020...2%bf%e3%83%ab/

Nikko 05-21-2020 04:45 PM

Accuphase NEW top preamp C-3900 1,900,000 yen (excluding tax)... so it's not a terrible price.

Masterlu 05-21-2020 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko (Post 1005365)
Accuphase NEW top preamp C-3900 1,900,000 yen (excluding tax)... so it's not a terrible price.

I am accepting orders for the new C-3900 now; shipping in July.

USA retail $50K

Masterlu 05-21-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko (Post 1005235)

The new DG-68 is also shipping in July.

USA retail remains the same as the DG-58 at $20K

simon44 05-23-2020 11:17 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/vBBws775/164.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/JhKCvYX1/165.jpg

GSOphile 05-24-2020 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko (Post 1005365)
Accuphase NEW top preamp C-3900 1,900,000 yen (excluding tax)... so it's not a terrible price.

Right, under $18K in Japan (excl tax) at current exchange rate.

SCAudiophile 05-24-2020 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSOphile (Post 1005532)
Right, under $18K in Japan (excl tax) at current exchange rate.

Unfortunately has no bearing on the US price...

Masterlu 05-24-2020 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 1005533)
Unfortunately has no bearing on the US price...

That is 100% correct. :yes:

GSOphile 05-24-2020 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 1005533)
Unfortunately has no bearing on the US price...

The difference tells me all I need to know.

W9TR 05-26-2020 09:24 PM

accuphase rumors
 
Indeed - the amortized cost of FCC, UL, and CSA testing and certification is high for boutique products with limited sales.

You could also argue that the US distributor Axiss Audio has a high end lifestyle to finance.

SCAudiophile 05-27-2020 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W9TR (Post 1005738)
Indeed - the amortized cost of FCC, UL, and CSA testing and certification is high for boutique products with limited sales.

You could also argue that the US distributor Axiss Audio has a high end lifestyle to finance.

Have heard that before and seen a couple of videos, very high end office and home space, lots of toys,... They are not alone,...there is another disti that has some videos shot in a rather lavish home on the coast in CA. Let's just say it's readily apparent that from the video and the zipcode in question, there is ample margin added to US prices for many brands to support these lifestyles.

Formerly YB-2 05-27-2020 11:23 AM

Have heard they are coming out with a 'budget' line of gear. They are going to call it Accuphony. ;)

GreginNH1 05-27-2020 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formerly YB-2 (Post 1005782)
Have heard they are coming out with a 'budget' line of gear. They are going to call it Accuphony. ;)

Or just buy Canuphase versions in Canada! LOL

W9TR 05-27-2020 11:00 PM

I also always wonder what kind of tariffs this gear is subject to.

Any non-value added piece of the value chain is subject to disintermediation.

GreginNH1 05-28-2020 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W9TR (Post 1005822)
I also always wonder what kind of tariffs this gear is subject to.

Any non-value added piece of the value chain is subject to disintermediation.

Tariffs are very low on electronics. Distributor's margin accounts for the disparity.

Antonmb 05-28-2020 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W9TR (Post 1005822)
I also always wonder what kind of tariffs this gear is subject to.



I believe electronics are duty-free if made in Japan. If made in China, the special temporary tariff is 25%.

jororupp 06-25-2020 05:20 AM

I've heard rumors about a P-7500 and PS-550/1250 to come. Any confirmation from the US on that?

TommyC 06-25-2020 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jororupp (Post 1007820)
I've heard rumors about a P-7500 and PS-550/1250 to come. Any confirmation from the US on that?

Sounds about right.

The P7300 came out in 2015.
PS530/1230 came out in 2016.

Time for their usual update.

djradu2004 06-26-2020 09:10 AM

I hope they will reintroduce M-8000 series monoblocks, something like this maybe: M-9000 or M-10000 @ 250-300W/8 ohms. Like old Luxman B-1000F.
Their preamplifiers and sacd sources deserve this!
I am sure they will have customers.

frisqo 07-26-2020 09:15 AM

im hoping for a new DAC ...

Higgens 07-26-2020 10:17 AM

Agreed. The successor to the DC-37 is way overdue.

TommyC 07-26-2020 02:33 PM

The DP-950/DC950 replacement should be out next year.

Not sure about the DC37 replacement since it's the first of its kind.

pabe12 07-27-2020 11:11 AM

Well, if that new DAC could include Roon-readiness or some other kind of streaming option (UPNP, OpenHome) that would be ideal.

Unless that happens I don't think I can be tempted away from my dCS Rossini.

meltemi 07-27-2020 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pabe12 (Post 1009952)
Ideally, if that new DAC could include Roon-readiness or some other kind of streaming option (UPNP, OpenHome) that would be ideal.

Unless that happens I don't think I can be tempted away from my dCS Rossini.

May well be not even after it.

Martin

raker 07-27-2020 11:29 PM

Accuphase C-3900 & DG-68 information & pictures @ Accuphase site already:

http://www.accuphase.com/new_product.html


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