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SuperD 12-27-2017 01:46 PM

Tripoint Audio Grounding Component
 
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Anyone on AA familiar with these products? I started thinking about grounding years ago because I noticed all of my components have a ground post that i never paid attention to. I have read post after post about signal cables but not much about grounding. I started to look into things and came across Tripoint Audio.

Miguel Alvarez started Tripoint in 2008 and just recently released the Tripoint Troy Elite grounding component that is said to eliminate EFI/RFI from the signal and significantly enhance reproduced music. Miguel has sold Tripoint all over the world and his work can be seen at the AudioExotics website. I have known Miguel for a few years and was close to pulling the trigger until my wife became pregnant and all stereo dreams were put on hold. Three and a half years later and 2 sons, I have finally oredered a Tripoint Troy Elite with 5 Thor SE grounding cables. A cable for each monoblock, K-01X, G-01, and pre. I'm really excited to hear it in my system this January.

SCAudiophile 12-27-2017 02:10 PM

Not personally only by online mention and talking with Miguel several times over the years. Fan feedback seems to be extremely positive. Congratulations on your purchase and happy holidays!

SuperD 12-27-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 888788)
Not personally only by online mention and talking with Miguel several times over the years. Fan feedback seems to be extremely positive. Congratulations on your purchase and happy holidays!

Mark,
Happy Holidays! Tripoint seems to be well known overseas and I have only come across one unit on the pre-owned market. I have spoken to a number of owners whose ears I trust that swear by his tech. Anything on the horizon for you in 2018?

Dave

SCAudiophile 12-27-2017 03:10 PM

Happy Holidays!

I have Grandioso dreams in various forms for 2018 to 2019,...the rest is up to the deal closure and quota retirement gods 🤣

Masterlu 12-27-2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 888814)
Happy Holidays!

I have Grandioso dreams in various forms for 2018 to 2019,...the rest is up to the deal closure and quota retirement gods 🤣

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You’re in Good Hands! ;)

For The Love of Music 12-28-2017 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 888774)
Anyone on AA familiar with these products? I started thinking about grounding years ago because I noticed all of my components have a ground post that i never paid attention to. I have read post after post about signal cables but not much about grounding. I started to look into things and came across Tripoint Audio.



Miguel Alvarez started Tripoint in 2008 and just recently released the Tripoint Troy Elite grounding component that is said to eliminate EFI/RFI from the signal and significantly enhance reproduced music. Miguel has sold Tripoint all over the world and his work can be seen at the AudioExotics website. I have known Miguel for a few years and was close to pulling the trigger until my wife became pregnant and all stereo dreams were put on hold. Three and a half years later and 2 sons, I have finally oredered a Tripoint Troy Elite with 5 Thor SE grounding cables. A cable for each monoblock, K-01X, G-01, and pre. I'm really excited to hear it in my system this January.



Not familiar with TriPoint, but the box looks impressive.

I am a major believer and user of a grounding system, curious on your comments once you install.

Consider pausing for each connection and hearing how the sound changes as you add each grounding wire.

Best!

SuperD 12-28-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by For The Love of Music (Post 888960)
Not familiar with TriPoint, but the box looks impressive.

I am a major believer and user of a grounding system, curious on your comments once you install.

Consider pausing for each connection and hearing how the sound changes as you add each grounding wire.

Best!

After reading your thread, I decided to see if anyone here has any experience with Tripoint or any other grounding solution. Entreq and Tripoint are the two grounding devices that I compared and almost everyone that uses them hears a benefit. It seems more manufacturers are developing grounding solutions and I think I remember reading Shunyata was working on a grounding cable. It will be interesting to see where it all leads. Really looking forward to getting the "magic box" setup. Will keep you posted.

Dave

SCAudiophile 12-29-2017 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 889007)
After reading your thread, I decided to see if anyone here has any experience with Tripoint or any other grounding solution. Entreq and Tripoint are the two grounding devices that I compared and almost everyone that uses them hears a benefit. It seems more manufacturers are developing grounding solutions and I think I remember reading Shunyata was working on a grounding cable. It will be interesting to see where it all leads. Really looking forward to getting the "magic box" setup. Will keep you posted.

Dave

I've used Granite Audio's Ground Zero grounding station and bespoke grounding cables for years with great results. The lead designer for Esoteric many years ago turned me on to star-grounding as a critical aspect of a key means to get Esoteric 1, 2, 3 and 4 box stacks to sound their best (counting clock) and the overall benefits; I've been using the GA product since 2006.

I've looked at Entreq and Tripoint plus others and the cost particularly is prohibitive and scary to me plus the overt size of the larger ground cables (I have enough issues with the size of the other cables in my system :D) seems out of proportion to their function but I could be dead wrong here.

I've looked intently at Shunyata's approach of integrating the grounding device/plane directly into the power distributor (Denali and Triton) together with their new levels of grounding cables, and this strikes me as brilliant and 'about damn time...' someone brought the 2 (component) worlds officially together.

All that aside, grounding is an important way I've been able to drop the noise floor in my system a bit further and in very noticeable ways for over a decade. I'd advise it for anyone looking to improve their system.

SuperD 12-29-2017 07:05 PM

I hear you on the price but I'm hoping it does what everyone says it does. I took a leap of faith and ordered one after talking with an audio friend in the Netherlands and buying his Thor cables. I have spoken with a few different people with different tastes, setup, and equipment that have all come to the same conclusion...its an essential piece that they would not want to be without. The Thor cables are about the size of my thumb and they are dense! Miguel personally makes them and the guy is an absolute perfectionist. I'm all in on grounding at this point. Keep me posted on the Grandioso:yes:

Happy New Year!
Dave

For The Love of Music 12-29-2017 08:18 PM

Super Dave Osbourne

I believe Mark to be dead-on and also believe you will hear things in an amazing way - keep us posted!

SuperD 12-29-2017 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by For The Love of Music (Post 889277)
Super Dave Osbourne

I believe Mark to be dead-on and also believe you will hear things in an amazing way - keep us posted!



Super Dave Osbourne,

You are the first person to ever mention him. I used to watch that show with my dad growing up. Awesome! My uncle, the one that got me hooked on audio, always called me Super Dave, and that is what I went with.

For The Love of Music 12-29-2017 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 889298)
Super Dave Osbourne,

You are the first person to ever mention him. I used to watch that show with my dad growing up. Awesome! My uncle, the one that got me hooked on audio, always called me Super Dave, and that is what I went with.



There’s always a first; glad to bring up memories as we slip past another year gone by.

streetspirit 12-30-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 889298)
Super Dave Osbourne,

You are the first person to ever mention him. I used to watch that show with my dad growing up. Awesome! My uncle, the one that got me hooked on audio, always called me Super Dave, and that is what I went with.



It’s funny every time I saw your handle I thought the same thing. Then I’d laugh recalling his “stunts”!

Mitch

SuperD 02-07-2018 01:16 PM

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My Tripoint Elite arrived today. Ill install it tonight with the Thor SE cables after I rearrange some components to fit it in the rack.

Gsheley 02-07-2018 11:51 PM

Will be anxious to read your comments on it effectiveness.

DonBattles 02-08-2018 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 889167)
I've looked intently at Shunyata's approach of integrating the grounding device/plane directly into the power distributor (Denali and Triton) together with their new levels of grounding cables, and this strikes me as brilliant and 'about damn time...' someone brought the 2 (component) worlds officially together.

Looking at the Denali 6000 insides it would appear that the ground receives no special treatment. Not saying it isn't effective, in fact I achieved the same level of performance using the grounding lugs on my 6000T as I did using a Granite Audio Ground Zero. Would I get a different or better result with a Entreq or TriPoint unit? In my system, as its currently configured, I think the answer would be little difference (if any at all).

SuperD 02-08-2018 12:45 PM

Well it wasn't easy but I managed to install the Tripoint Troy Elite and 5 Thor SE grounding cables last night. One cable to each monoblock, K-01X, G-01, and Nagra Classic Amp. All components include grounding posts which makes things much easier. The Elite is plugged into the dedicated circuit for my front end.

The sound I heard right after turning everything back on was the best my system has ever sounded. The Elite brings a level of realism I have yet to hear. The music flows so effortlessly and my walls seemed to disappear like never before. My wife and I were up late rediscovering music we thought we knew well. Tripoint IMO, squeezes every drop of emotion out of music. :banana:

For The Love of Music 02-08-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 898022)
Well it wasn't easy but I managed to install the Tripoint Troy Elite and 5 Thor SE grounding cables last night. One cable to each monoblock, K-01X, G-01, and Nagra Classic Amp. All components include grounding posts which makes things much easier. The Elite is plugged into the dedicated circuit for my front end.



The sound I heard right after turning everything back on was the best my system has ever sounded. The Elite brings a level of realism I have yet to hear. The music flows so effortlessly and my walls seemed to disappear like never before. My wife and I were up late rediscovering music we thought we knew well. Tripoint IMO, squeezes every drop of emotion out of music. :banana:



Super Dave, it’s amazing what external grounding does. Curious on those spikes in the picture, let’s see what you came up with.

I agree with everything your saying 100%, and happy to read your comments.

I don’t need to be there to know the same result, similar theory, different gear.

SCAudiophile 02-08-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 898022)
Well it wasn't easy but I managed to install the Tripoint Troy Elite and 5 Thor SE grounding cables last night. One cable to each monoblock, K-01X, G-01, and Nagra Classic Amp. All components include grounding posts which makes things much easier. The Elite is plugged into the dedicated circuit for my front end.

The sound I heard right after turning everything back on was the best my system has ever sounded. The Elite brings a level of realism I have yet to hear. The music flows so effortlessly and my walls seemed to disappear like never before. My wife and I were up late rediscovering music we thought we knew well. Tripoint IMO, squeezes every drop of emotion out of music. :banana:

Congratulations on your new Tripoint componnent and cables! It's very cool and also impressive to hear this feedback from someone who already had a system before the Tripoint's addition, including the NAD Monos, etc...that is at a level that many dream about!

SuperD 02-08-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by For The Love of Music (Post 898027)
Super Dave, it’s amazing what external grounding does. Curious on those spikes in the picture, let’s see what you came up with.

I agree with everything your saying 100%, and happy to read your comments.

I don’t need to be there to know the same result, similar theory, different gear.

Honestly, I was worried I had set the bar too high and wouldn't be as blown away as I am. It brought more than I expected. The spikes are works of art or weapons depending on who is holding them:D. The detail and craftsmanship is first class. Miguel is a perfectionist.

SuperD 02-08-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 898038)
Congratulations on your new Tripoint componnent and cables! It's very cool and also impressive to hear this feedback from someone who already had a system before the Tripoint's addition, including the NAD Monos, etc...that is at a level that many dream about!

Mark,
Thanks! Its real, No hype. I've never heard anything like it. If you're ever in Houston, stop by.

Dave

SCAudiophile 02-08-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 898044)
Mark,
Thanks! Its real, No hype. I've never heard anything like it. If you're ever in Houston, stop by.

Dave

Thank you...will do!

SCAudiophile 02-08-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DonBattles (Post 897984)
Looking at the Denali 6000 insides it would appear that the ground receives no special treatment. Not saying it isn't effective, in fact I achieved the same level of performance using the grounding lugs on my 6000T as I did using a Granite Audio Ground Zero. Would I get a different or better result with a Entreq or TriPoint unit? In my system, as its currently configured, I think the answer would be little difference (if any at all).

Don,...using the grounding lugs on the Triton v3 a good friend loaned to me to put through its paces gives me better results than a Granite Audio Ground Zero that served me very well for over 10 years. I'd suggest asking Caelin what is happening viz. grounding in the Denali 6000 and Triton v3; whatever it is, even if it's as straightforward as just taken the grounding plane reference point fully into the Denali or Triton versus a bespoke extra box or something more is giving fantastic results from what I hear no matter what!

DonBattles 02-08-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 898059)
Don,...using the grounding lugs on the Triton v3 a good friend loaned to me to put through its paces gives me better results than a Granite Audio Ground Zero that served me very well for over 10 years. I'd suggest asking Caelin what is happening viz. grounding in the Denali 6000 and Triton v3; whatever it is, even if it's as straightforward as just taken the grounding plane reference point fully into the Denali or Triton versus a bespoke extra box or something more is giving fantastic results from what I hear no matter what!

I'm not knocking Shunyata just pointing out, at least in the case of the Denali, that it appears no "special" treatment was given to the grounding system. On the Triton V3 I will not comment as I've not seen a clear picture of it's internals. I was using the Ground Zero along with my Talos before I upgraded to the Denali. I however wouldn't say the Denali was better than the Ground Zero but at least equaled my best results with the GA. This was judged by listening to several recordings I use as "reference" when judging system changes/upgrades. I also used a db meter with all sources turned on (no music playing) with the volume turned up all the way and running trough the various sources watching the db meter as I did so. Not the most scientific method I know.

For The Love of Music 02-08-2018 04:57 PM

Super Dave Osborne send pictures of your accomplishment - we can’t hang on forever [emoji344]

SuperD 02-08-2018 06:10 PM

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Super Dave Osborne send pictures of your accomplishment - we can’t hang on forever [emoji344]

Agreed, I'll take some when i get home. I was too excited to hook everything up.

Dave


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