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Ricjor1 07-30-2017 11:46 AM

C-02X Preamp
 
Has anyone had the opportunity to listen to the C-02X preamp. I'm looking to replace my Jeff Rowland Corus preamp, but I need a preamp that has HT bypass. I looked on Esoteric's website and I didn't read anything stating that the C-02X or any of their preamps offered HT bypass. Does the C-02X preamp have HT bypass and I'm just missing it?

Masterlu 07-30-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricjor1 (Post 858793)
Has anyone had the opportunity to listen to the C-02X preamp. I'm looking to replace my Jeff Rowland Corus preamp, but I need a preamp that has HT bypass. I looked on Esoteric's website and I didn't read anything stating that the C-02X or any of their preamps offered HT bypass. Does the C-02X preamp have HT bypass and I'm just missing it?

I own one, no it does not have HT bypass.

Ricjor1 07-30-2017 01:01 PM

Well esoteric is out

mchydro 07-30-2017 01:26 PM

Not sure if this is the same thing as HT bypass but according to their website..."RCA2 terminals permit switching between normal line output and AV-through output for systems operated in both AV surround and pure two-channel modes"

Ricjor1 07-30-2017 02:34 PM

Thanks so much, I'll look into it.

Colekat 07-30-2017 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricjor1 (Post 858821)
Thanks so much, I'll look into it.

The C-02 offered Line 2 pass thru, which I used as bypass for my processor. The C-02X I believe has the exact same output options. I had an issue with noise when I used the pass thru, it is unshielded and very susceptible to RF.

Ricjor1 07-30-2017 09:07 PM

Did you resolve the noise issue?

Ricjor1 07-30-2017 09:14 PM

If anyone has heard the C-02X, how would you describe how it sounds?

mchydro 07-30-2017 11:57 PM

I have heard it. It sounds incredible. Very transparent. Creates a huge soundstage, with texture and nuance and is dead quiet. Built like a tank.

Colekat 07-31-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricjor1 (Post 858892)
If anyone has heard the C-02X, how would you describe how it sounds?

Hi Ricjor , I owned the C-02 for about 18 months. At the time I had the D-02/P-02 with the G-01 clock. I let a friend borrow the clock, he had Ypsilon front end and I got to hear the D-02/P-02 with the Ypsilon preamp. Shortly after that I moved on from the C-02 and bought the Ypsilon Preamp. The Esoteric player with the hybrid pre sounded fantastic to me. The all Esoteric front end was a bit harsh compared to the Ypsilon combo. I could only hear it after I returned to my system and heard the D-02/P-02 with the C-02.
I always listen now, no more opinions and reviews. There's way to many combinations out there to listen too ! I do believe that amps and preamps should be the same manufacturer and same series, as for any manufacturer, I think they do some stuff better than other stuff, espiecally in super high end. There's so much money in this stuff, they all want to have a full line-up ! After having bought and moved on from so much stuff, I have found for my taste, Esoteric has been my player of choice for a long time, love the detail and dynamics ! That said, I have not found the same love in their other offerings.
And, As soon as I replaced the C-02, the noise issue with pass-thru disappeared. It pissed me off that a Preamp at $16k wound have any issues with a feature they designed and built in !

Colekat 07-31-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricjor1 (Post 858892)
If anyone has heard the C-02X, how would you describe how it sounds?

One other thing, do the Monitor speakers have Metal drivers ? My Salons have aluminum drivers and can sound brittle with the Esoteric with certain music, espiecally poorly recorded stuff, the tubes helped a lot with softening that up without loss of what I like most....

Ricjor1 07-31-2017 10:54 AM

"Amps and preamps from the same manufacture." I currently have an all Jeff Rowland system: 625 S2 amplifier, Corus preamp, and Aries DAC. I'm looking at different upgrade paths, so I'm asking questions to provide me options to listen to. I always let my ears determine what I'm going to do.

SCAudiophile 07-31-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mchydro (Post 858918)
I have heard it. It sounds incredible. Very transparent. Creates a huge soundstage, with texture and nuance and is dead quiet. Built like a tank.

+1 on this....I also own the C-02 (preceding model) and the same attributes apply to that pre-amp. With my choice of powercords and interconnects I found that I get tube-like harmonics, wonderful micro-dynamics, etc...out of this pre-amp.

Masterlu 07-31-2017 04:10 PM

The C-02X is an extraordinary performer. :ok:

Ricjor1 07-31-2017 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 858993)
The C-02X is an extraordinary performer. :ok:

That's what I understand. I'm looking at a couple options...amplifier change, preamp change, power conditioner. Looking for most impact versus dollar spent?

Colekat 07-31-2017 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricjor1 (Post 859000)
That's what I understand. I'm looking at a couple options...amplifier change, preamp change, power conditioner. Looking for most impact versus dollar spent?

Ricjor, I was generalizing about the manufacturers, not suggesting to you. As for the C-02, I owned it for 18 months.... it does have pass thru capabilities and it's a good Preamp, just not as good as others I have had in my system, some for more money and some for a lot less. In value, I have heard many preamps that I liked better for a lot less money. Now that is not a generalization, that is an opinion ! Good luck on your decision !

Masterlu 08-03-2017 02:25 PM

Ricjor1... I stand corrected; Yes, the C-02X does have a home theater bypass. You would take the L and R from your prepro to RCA 2Inputs
Page 19 of the manual walks you through it. My apologies

audible1 11-29-2018 07:38 PM

Hi can you please comment on C-02x vs Grandioso pre in terms of sound quality?

Masterlu 11-29-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by audible1 (Post 942659)
Hi can you please comment on C-02x vs Grandioso pre in terms of sound quality?

They are both superb as I own them both. However they are in very different price points $20K vs $40K.

They are also in completely different systems; so providing a SQ comparison really isn’t possible.


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