D'Agostino Master Power Classic
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2fastdriving had one of these for a listen, and may have posted something on it
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Here's an older AA thread about the Classic:
https://www.audioaficionado.org/show...+Power+Classic Maybe not a lot of meat in that thread -- but thought I'd post it. Best Sir, Bob |
Thanks Bob
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After revisiting Marc’s postings, I wonder what Stillpoints would have done to each of the ranges, hearing what the mid level Ultra SS did to the Momentum’s I can only imagine how the Classic could have been tweaked, especially since its not billet, creating even more value, dunno, just thinking out loud
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Hey everyone, I revisited that thread as well and now I remember it clearly. I was really impressed with the authority and grip, which is present in ALL D'Agostino gear, yet wasn't taken with the midrange and soundstage accuracy. The Ref75 and now my Esoteric A-02 beat the Classic (or really the MP3+ that I demo'd) in that critical area (critical for me).
Since my demo, I've heard it sound very good in other rooms/systems. So maybe it was isolation. Ed is right, the amp could probably benefit from HRS isolation or stillpoints because it's not a solid chassis. But the Classic is a great value any way you look at it, and it has gobs of power reserves. I've been tempted by my dealer on a few different occasions, but never bit because I'd rather wait and get a momentum stereo. I'm still thinking along those lines, but not in a hurry. |
Thanks for the feedback. I'm still thinking about staging a return to Wilson and D'Agostino for the bigger room. Going Alexia and Momentum like I had before is not in my plans but a pair of Sabrinas and perhaps the Classic would be doable.
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I found a thorough 3 part review which did peak my curiosity enough to seek an audition.
Part 1. https://youtu.be/Po6EhGkExj0 Part 2. https://youtu.be/GUcogQ-tMx8 Part 3. https://youtu.be/w-ND1q634N8 |
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Best Sir, Bob |
I was wondering when you were going to get back on that horse :) If you do end up auditioning it, I'll be interested to hear how they compare to what you had before (M300?).
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A trio, like 6 monos? If so, for theater? |
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From the sound of it, pun intended, it must of been beyond belief |
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I have come across this before, now I know whose it was.
Anyway, that build left you with the experience to move forward with consideration towards a great combination of Sabrina’s and a Classic, and this time you are miles ahead in dollars with still a great sound, I can already hear it. |
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I was told the Master 2 is basically a Momentum with a low(er) rent chassis.
Which makes it remarkably great value. A flick of a switch makes it a 1000W mono block The same source said the Progression is a more conventional architecture - not the one in the Momentum. |
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That's not generally how a business works. First, you build a halo product - in this case, the Momentum. Then you decrease costs for casing, use cheaper components and decrease complexity as you go down the chain so there's a consistent family "sound" and you are not reinventing the wheel along the way. This ensures that (1) your R&D spend efficiency is maximized (2) you can release products of lower lines within reasonable time frames to capitalize on the halo product hype and (3) maximizes the chances of a customer staying with the company as they move up the chain since it's more of what the customer already likes as he moves up the chain. |
I heard it with Kef Ref 5s and SF Serafinos the other day. Compared it with MC275 amp in stereo doing A/B ing back and forth. The salesperson and I kind of liked the Mac on either speaker. Just a tube preference really I think.
Full disclosure, I was there looking for speakers, so not as focused on the amp, but we both liked the two speakers with the Macs. Warmer, better mids and similar highs. Bass was all you could want on both amps. Room was not ideal as dealer is really a high end custom installer, but the speakers were set up as per the SF protocol. The salesmen was a real pro and had been doing this for 30 years. Always a pleasure to work with someone who could teach you and not the other way around. Don't get me wrong, the Dag was a very fine amp, just different sound. I could see them in a theater situation being fantastic. Gobs of power and plenty of current. They were using a Mac pre, but did not get the model number. I asked what speaker cables, but being 67 comes with some drawbacks. What you ask, I don't know, I forget! Jeff |
Dealer was Southeaston Systems in Mount Pleasant, SC. Peter Wainright was the contact.
Yes, I spelled the dealer name correctly.LOL |
Just a visual comparison sure looks like more than a low rent chassis to me -- the Master Classic transformer is behind the white rear cover. Two totally different designs.
Momentum 400 Top view https://i.imgur.com/i3EFZja.png Master Classic top view with massive & heavy amp cards on each side https://i.imgur.com/t0W4WNF.png Poor picture -- but side view of the Master Classic amp card https://i.imgur.com/siH42gO.jpg Best Sirs, Bob |
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Besides the copper and aluminium differences they are different in the fact that the Progression uses a single ended driver stage versus the Momentum's complimentary driver stage. This straight from Bill McKiegan whom I spoke to before replying to this. He did agree with your statement of the Progression being more "traditional" as the Momentum was designed to work and sound fantastic in a compact package. They also have different transformer windings for all three amps. In my opinion the Progression is much closer in sound to the Momentum than the Master Power as it shares some of the ideas trickled down from the Momentum amplifier. The Master Power is the "entry level" (gateway drug)! |
On the D’Agostino web site, the Classic 2 and Classic 3 are now listed as discontinued.
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