bLINK....why better? Please explain
 

So what makes the bLINK better than other Bluetooth receivers on the market? Compared to a unit from Audioengine or Outlaw Audio at under 1/2 the price.... :scratch2:
Input please... I'm thinking hard about adding a bLINK to my system.
Thx!!!

Hi,

The bLINK is the only Bluetooth streamer on the market that has superior clocking functionality (ala the Remedy) built in. If you compared units side by side, we're confident the SQ improvement would be appreciable.

Well....I will compare! :D ordering one tomorrow. :thumbsup: Thx!

Any discount for AA members?

I am very impressed with W4S, both their products and their company! I am getting one of the brand new USB Recovery units! Hopefully I will be able to pick one up at the company next week :D...

Just ordered a new bLink from Ivan... Thank you Ivan! :thumbsup:

Nice! I hope it works out great for you!

With W4S I purchase straight from the company. I drive by their office several times a week and I am joining a audio club with some of their people.... so will definitely get from them...

I get other things from Ivan though....

If one purchases W4S DAC-2 DSDse which to my understanding has the Femto clock upgrade, does it still make sense to get the W4S bLINK or would the AudioEngine B1 or similar device be just as good.
Thx... AJ

The Blink is for Blue Tooth, right... while the Remedy is for digital inputs other than USB. The Recovery is for USB. They all do similar things as the Femto but with the signal before it gets to the DAC.

The Femto clock and the Recovery, for example, work hand in hand with the signal out of my computer.

Here is from W4S website about the Recovery:
"I already own a Wyred 4 Sound DAC with Femto clock. Will the Recovery still benefit me?
Absolutely! The two devices do separate things. The clocking in the DAC has no control over when or how it receives its signal from the sources.The Recovery works to greatly improve the incoming signal before the DAC receives it, so perfecting that allows the DAC to shine even more. The internal clock accuracy and jitter elimination of the DAC can mitigate some of the input jitter, but is no replacement for correcting it beforehand."

Thank you Randy for explanation and taking the time.
I understand what you quoted but have a hard time understanding the technical side.
I would think garbage in garbage out, so if signal is already cleaned/corrected by 80% coming in, it would normally equal what the DAC2 DSDse work needs to do once it receives "cleaner" already corrected signal from bLINK... OR is the signal already corrected by bLINK by 80% being corrected another 80% with the DSDse, making signal coming in more than 80% cleaner than advertises with just one or the other device alone ?
Thx... AJ

When you put it that way, I am thinking my hearing might never be able to detect an 80% improvement of an 80% improvement... :dunno:

They are not super expensive items, buy them both, test and decide. Sell what you don't want:D

I do not claim to understand the technical side, therefore I do not claim to be able to explain the technical aspects of it.

However I know that the Remedy has an extremely good reputation and excellent reviews.

The bLINK is a new product and therefore I have not seen reviews, but honestly I have not looked for them either since I have no interest in Blue Tooth connections to my audio system.

I can say for sure that the Recovery does an amazing job. I know of several other members here who also have tried it and report how amazing it it. I can't try to explain how it works only that it does. EJ did describe how it worked to me, but honestly it was way above my head :)....

Hahaha excellent and so true hahahah
Thank you for a good laugh, does not happen often, soothes the pain and cost of audio system and sound quality we look forward to :tresbon:

AJ

Comments sound a lot like what the Uptone Audio REGEN does ahead of a DAC. It improved things on my PS Audio DS DAC, but I don't hear much improvement with my BDA-3. Go figure!

scirocco:
In your case, as in most Audio improvement claims and as I personally understand it, it is either subjective or left to the ear of the beholder without any factual data supporting the improvement suggestion.

I was just trying to understand factual claims and written statements made by W4S and whether these claims are (or not) improved by chaining one "jitter cleanser" product to an another, as it was explain in posts above. Are we improving the left over 20% jitter with an audible difference or do both products phase out each other by using the same jitter cleansing process and algorithm.

Since W4S uses a software to show improvement with Remedy (attached info from their website), it's would be great if they could also back up their statements by chaining bLINk (or other jitter cleanser) to DSDSe and show the signal results coming out with both units chained together. Don't thing it should take them very long to do.

The reason I brought up the W4S question is because W4S states factual claims on some of their product and not others and before purchasing an add-on "jitter cleanser" to a DDse, it would be nice to know if technology is redundant and superfuxe, coming from same manufacturer which I would think uses similar technology in its sister product.

bLINK
Femto-grade reclocker drastically reduces jitter
(Specs do NOT include any data analyses backing up their claim of "jitter reduction")

REMEDY RECLOCKER
Superior jitter reduction​
(Specs shows data analyses backing up their "jitter reduction" claim. Graph below)

DAC-2 DSDs
Femto Grade Clock (82 fSec phase jitter)
"...optimizes phase jitter by over 80%..."

AJ

You are welcome! :thumbs: There is so much stuff out there with so many claims, I sometimes feel like my equipment will be perpetually inadequate. No matter what I buy, or how much I spend, there is some darn shit somewhere else that is better!
I use the Remedy and really like it, because I did perceive a qualitative difference between with and without while connected to my Sonos Connect.

( As a side comment, I also experienced an improvement of my sound when I bought my MC452, when I added PS Audio's PowerPlants throughout my system, and when I added some PS Audio Noise Harvesters.)

As long as I can afford it, and can remain married, I will continue to experiment here and there, only because it keeps me busy and entertained:smoking:

I can only comment on the Recovery for USB and I noticed a very nice improvement as others on AA have also attested to.

Hello AJ,

The short answer is, the Femto in the Remedy is the same as in the bLINK. So what can be deduced from the Remedy can also cross over to the bLINK. The benefit of reclocking the signal before it gets to the DAC is that the DAC has a cleaner signal to work with from the beginning. The resulting sound benefits from that. In this way, having the two in the chain together is not redundant.

Hope this helps.

It is true what they say about these little W4S devices.

I finally have a system that's resolving enough to react well to tweaks and/or upgrades, and one improvement that was/is definitely heard is the effects of the W4S Recovery USB Reclocker. I don't know if it uses the same Femto clock as the Remedy and bLink mentioned above, but I'm sure the end results of all three are very similar.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

I am truly impressed by what the W4S products do. EJ is an audio engineering genius (as quoted by several audio magazines including The Absolute Sound). Having him explain what these amazing little devices do in person I can tell you this young man is in a whole different stratosphere than I. Which pisses me off :D.... I am a computer software engineer and have some pretty decent chops in anything electronics and he is way above me :)...

You said chops... LOL

Respectfully and unfortunately, it does not help much... Except to add to the confusion of multitude unproven statements we hear on everyday bases in many parts of the Audio world.

I'm not doubting W4S products work independently but would like to "see" the improvement chaining bLink or Remedy to DSDse.

It would be nice if you could show this signal improvement on a graph or with same software screen shot you used and posted on your website for the Remedy.

Original signal with Screen shot showing jitter -> bLINK output signal with screenshot corrected jitter -> DAC-2 DSDse output signal with screen shot with final jitter...

Don't think it would take more than 20 minutes to do and it would finally put an end to sceptical like me who want to believe and purchase more W4S product to improve sound. It would also be great for W4S to prove the above theory.

Not going to dwell on this much longer, it seems we are going in circles.
Hope this helps as well.

Best, AJ

on the bLINK....

Is the Optical out and the Coax out "hot" at all times? Asking if I can wire out to 2 different DACS for two different systems.

Thanks
jc

JC... yes, they are both hot; let me know if you want one at the right price. :o