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Masterlu 12-13-2011 05:43 PM

Sonus Faber Aida
 
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Everyone; thanks for being so patient. Here is what you have been waiting for... More later!

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...a-dsc_5906.jpg

MOSFET 12-13-2011 05:59 PM

Wow, Simply Gorgeous! :drool:

Masterlu 12-13-2011 06:05 PM

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A few more...

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...7&d=1323829350

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...1&d=1323828983

megasat16 12-13-2011 06:06 PM

Two mid bass drivers have a very peculiar phase plugs. AIDA is a breakthrough for SF.

RogueRadio 12-13-2011 06:32 PM

How tall are they?

Rilands 12-13-2011 06:35 PM

Pretty nice.:yes:

Masterlu 12-13-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RogueRadio (Post 239636)
How tall are they?

Just shy of 6'

jostber 12-13-2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueRadio (Post 239636)
How tall are they?

From the "Aida has arrived" thread:

DIMENSIONS:
1725mm x 482mm x 767mm (HxWxD)

BlueChiaro 12-13-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RogueRadio (Post 239636)
How tall are they?

Ivan posted this in the other thread, but I thought it might serve well to put it, here (hope that's okay). I think the conversion comes to 67.9" tall:

Aida

SYSTEM: 3.5 way, Sound Field Shaper Technology, Zero Vibration transmission Technology, para-aperiodic vented box Stealth Reflex System, staggered low frequency floorstanding loudspeaker system.

CABINET: “Lyre shape” design, dual side curvature, special cross grained okumè plywood, used in a double thickness constriction layer damped configuration. Sub–structural ribs are strategically placed for total rejection of spurious vibrations and standing waves control. Two “clampshells” (from “The” experience), i.e. CNC anodized machined avional “vibration dampers” (on the top and on the bottom of the cabinet) “stiffen” the column structure reducing consistently structural micro-vibrations coming from the cabinet walls and the transducers.
The “Anima legata” system is used in an innovative way, encompassing the 3 inner chambers of the front firing drive units. A special steel rod, a high speed mechanical interface, the “Soul Pole”, concentrates the remaining micro-vibrations conveying them to the dual “multiple tuned mass dampers, two differently tuned special custom devices optimized to erase micro-vibrations, by oscillating in anti-phase.
A totally new floating bridge suspension for vibrational interface has been devised to decouple the enclosure from the floor through the Zero Vibration Transmission Technology, a patent pending suspension system, eliminating any acoustic feedback and any vibration propagation to the listening room.

TWEETER: Sonus faber DAD (Damped Apex Dome, synthesis of the classic dome and ring transducer) 29 XTR-06. A Sonus faber designed 29 mm moving coil driver, with Sonus faber’s vibration optimized mechanical interface. Ultra dynamic linearity given by the new Neodymium motor system. Implemented with a natural wood acoustic labyrinth rear chamber, a mechanical anti-resonator designed for this application. To perfectly match the high frequency performance to different listening rooms and different tastes it is possible to adjust the SPL of the tweeter.

MIDRANGE: Sonus faber M18 XTR-08. A Sonus faber designed 180 mm neodymium magnet system ultra dynamic linearity midrange. CCAW on a composite former “eddy current free” voice coil. Dynamically linear magnetic field motor incorporating triple Kellog/Goeller rings. Special custom diaphragm made with a real time air dried non pressed blend of traditional cellulose pulp, kapok, kenaf and other natural fibers, developed according to the most natural sound. To further inhibit any residual cone coloration we are using a viscous surface coating.
The basket is thoroughly optimized to eliminate any resonance, thanks to a high-tech dual metal (Avional and Gun Metal), CNC machined from solid billets.
The combination of the two different materials, Avional and Gunmetal, allows eliminating any mutual resonance. The same way as the tweeter, the midrange is decoupled from the main baffle board and designed synergistically with its optimized “acoustic chamber”. A special coaxial anti-compressor is used, designed to remove cavity resonances and distortions.

WOOFERS: Sonus faber W22 XTR-12. A Sonus faber designed 220 mm lightweight “sandwich” cone structure (high-tech syntactic foam core and two external surface skins of coated cellulose pulp) woofer in an acoustically amorphous “stealth reflex” chamber. Designed to blend perfectly with the special midrange and, at the same time, to have absolute definition in their range: the sandwich structure with outer paper pulp skins has the same sonic character of the midrange cone. A long-throw motor system with a 2” controlled “eddy current” voice coil is implemented for high speed, performance and linearity.
Special coaxial anti-compressor are used, designed to remove cavity resonance and distortions.

INFRA WOOFER: Sonus faber SW32 XT-08. A Sonus faber designed 320 mm, lightweight honeycomb composite sandwich cone structure with high-tech syntactic foam core and Nanocarbon technology for maximum rigidity infra woofer in an acoustically amorphous “stealth reflex” chamber. Very powerful long throw motor with a 3” voice coil for ultra dynamic linearity. To perfectly match the low-end performance to different listening rooms it is possible to adapt the SPL of the infra woofer.

SOUND FIELD SHAPER: Special patented Sound Field Shaper technology, a direct derivation from the “The”, allows the control of the direct/reverberant radiation ratio of the Aida. The sound field shaping module can be SPL optimized.

SOUND FIELD SHAPER TWEETER: 29 mm ultra dynamic linearity neodymium ring radiator dome derivative driver. Optimized off-axis radiation for this special application.

SOUND FIELD SHAPER MIDRANGE: 120 mm, paper pulp/natural fiber cone driver. It is a classic Sonus faber choice, a 3rd generation derivative of the unit used on the original Minima.

CROSS-OVER: Non-resonant “progressive slope” design, optimized amplitude/phase response for optimal space/time performance. “Paracross topology” on the tweeter hi-pass. The impedance at low frequencies is controlled for a clear amplifier friendly performance. Triple staggered transfer function low frequency/room interface optimized filter. Highest quality is used in terms of the components: Mundorf “Supreme” Silver/Gold/Oil capacitors, Jantzen inductors. Cross-over: 55Hz - 180 Hz - 250 Hz - 3000Hz. Lowest frequencies as well as the treble are adjustable through dedicated controls.

FREQUENCY RESPONSE:
20 Hz – 35.000 Hz, Stealth reflex included.

SENSITIVITY:
92 db SPL (2.83V/1 m).

NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:
4 ohm.

POWER HANDLING:
100W – 1KW, without clipping.

DIMENSIONS:
1725mm x 482mm x 767mm (HxWxD)

Masterlu 12-13-2011 06:45 PM

Robert... of course!

I started to put the pics on that thread, but then realized they would be buried in no time. ;)

Vintage Pete 12-13-2011 06:47 PM

A beautiful Loudspeaker system, without a doubt. From the very complete specifications list Ivan posted in another thread, a couple of questions come to mind.

First, while the dimensions are given, unless I missed it, the weight is not. I'm guessing around 300 lbs.

I'm also intrigued about the "Infra Woofer", which is described, in part, as being 320mm (roughly 12 inches) in sized, and housed in a "stealth-reflex" enclosure. I'd be curious to see a bit more info (even a picture?) of this creature. Obviously, this unit is hidden inside the system.

Overall, the system looks mighty impressive, and huge, as has already been noted.

Another beauty, to say the least, from Sonus Faber. :yes:


Pete

Masterlu 12-13-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Pete (Post 239652)
A beautiful Loudspeaker system, without a doubt. From the very complete specifications list Ivan posted in another thread, a couple of questions come to mind.

First, while the dimensions are given, unless I missed it, the weight is not. I'm guessing around 300 lbs.

I'm also intrigued about the "Infra Woofer", which is described, in part, as being 320mm (roughly 12 inches) in sized, and housed in a "stealth-reflex" enclosure. I'd be curious to see a bit more info (even a picture?) of this creature. Obviously, this unit is hidden inside the system.

Overall, the system looks mighty impressive, and huge, as has already been noted.

Another beauty, to say the least, from Sonus Faber. :yes:


Pete

Closer to 500lbs each Pete. ;)

EightZeroZeroDelta 12-13-2011 06:50 PM

Just as I expected, these pics can make me drool. I can only imagine what it would be like to see the intimidatingly tall figure in person. Not to mention hear how it handles anything thrown at it.

MasterLuJr 12-13-2011 06:52 PM

I really do love the looks of this speaker! Visually I find it to be much more impressive then the Sonus Faber speaker. The Aida has amazing lines & curves! Really beautiful looking. From what I'm hearing the sound is just as amazing :)

Doug Lax 12-13-2011 06:56 PM

Just out of curiosity the rear tweeter is angled for "Special Application" why is that?

Vintage Pete 12-13-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239656)
Closer to 500lbs each Pete. ;)

Whew. I was way off...:thumbsup:

Pete

scarpi 12-13-2011 07:05 PM

Truely amazing. I take it this is not going to be a limited production speaker like the Sonus faber. So it is possible for those who can afford it to be able to purchase it like many of their other speakers? The Italians really know how to produce beautiful products. Makes me proud to be of Italian decent. This is a work of art. :thumbsup:

piolaxo 12-13-2011 07:05 PM

There are a lot of questions with this speaker (impressive looks). Regarding the rear
theeter, since it is fixed, as opposed to the rotating one in the TSF speaker, it probably
needs to be angled based on the premise that the speaker will be angled in towards
the listener and with this then the direction of the rear tweeter points more towards
the back wall instead of the corner which may cause more difficult to control reflections.
So does that mean that the speakers could not be swapped from left to right?
Maybe depends where the walls are with respect to the speaker. From the size of it,
they'll require a big room.

Masterlu 12-13-2011 09:25 PM

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This will add some perspective on size.

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...4&d=1323825902

Masterlu 12-13-2011 09:31 PM

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Aida on her trolley.

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...5&d=1323826270

Scottsmrnyc 12-13-2011 09:47 PM

Just beautiful. Is there a price for this work or art or is it priceless?

Masterlu 12-13-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottsmrnyc (Post 239726)
Just beautiful. Is there a price for this work or art or is it priceless?

Scott... Retail is $120k

80B 12-13-2011 10:03 PM

Simply beautiful. Would love to hear these some day. :thumbsup:

jfray 12-13-2011 10:07 PM

The technology incorporated in these speakers is cutting edge (Second to NONE!!)...

williamhds 12-14-2011 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239729)
Scott... Retail is $120k

Something to add to the lottery winnings list. When I win that is.:smoking:

williamhds 12-14-2011 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239716)
This will add some perspective on size.

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...4&d=1323825902

Looks like transparent cable bringing the current.

j3brow 12-14-2011 03:16 AM

Nothing but the best for Aida!

MyPal 12-14-2011 05:12 AM

Very Cool Ivan :thumbsup:

larevoj 12-14-2011 05:59 AM

:thumbsup: Speechless...

joeinid 12-14-2011 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239608)
Everyone; thanks for being so patient. Here is what you have been waiting for... More later!

OMG Ivan! Absolutely Stunning and breathtaking. Now I realize what all the fuss was about. Congratulations! :drool:

Joe

psjl 12-14-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 239718)
Aida on her trolley.

Ivan,

The Aida is one very good looking speaker! :thumbsup:

BTW, from the picture that you posted, it looks like the trolley for the Aida can raise or lower the entire speaker (instead of tilting it on one side like the Wilson Audio floor jack) - is that correct?

If so, that would be such a helpful tool in positioning the speakers, as well as being a much more convenient and hassle free way than Wilson Audio's floor jack.

Philip

KingRT 12-14-2011 08:28 AM

What is the minimum room size, suggested for the Aida?

larevoj 12-14-2011 09:26 AM

BTW anyone know if the mid driver the same as Futura and Evolution?? If not, what are the differences??

metaphacts 12-14-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by psjl

Ivan,

The Aida is one very good looking speaker! :thumbsup:

BTW, from the picture that you posted, it looks like the trolley for the Aida can raise or lower the entire speaker (instead of tilting it on one side like the Wilson Audio floor jack) - is that correct?

If so, that would be such a helpful tool in positioning the speakers, as well as being a much more convenient and hassle free way than Wilson Audio's floor jack.

Philip

The trolley is a wonderful set up tool and it works exactly as you describe.

You also use it to remove Aida from her crate. One person could do it safely if necessary.

metaphacts 12-14-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by larevoj
BTW anyone know if the mid driver the same as Futura and Evolution?? If not, what are the differences??

Similar but not the same.

Masterlu 12-14-2011 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metaphacts (Post 239863)
The trolley is a wonderful set up tool and it works exactly as you describe.

You also use it to remove Aida from her crate. One person could do it safely if necessary.

Remarkable Engineering.

metaphacts 12-14-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KingRT
What is the minimum room size, suggested for the Aida?

Not sure yet. What might be just as interesting is the maximum size capabilities. Aida appears effortless dynamically.

Taylode 12-14-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by metaphacts (Post 239867)
Not sure yet. What might be just as interesting is the maximum size capabilities. Aida appears effortless dynamically.

Bill if you need to conduct some long-term real-world small room testing I'll sacrifice my logans so we can slot in Aida!:D

metaphacts 12-14-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Taylode

Bill if you need to conduct some long-term real-world small room testing I'll sacrifice my logans so we can slot in Aida!:D

Should we have to test in such a way I will keep in mind that you were the first to step up and sacrifice for the greater good . :thumbsup:

Taylode 12-14-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by metaphacts (Post 239871)
Should we have to test in such a way I will keep in mind that you were the first to step up and sacrifice for the greater good . :thumbsup:

Can't ask for more than that! :yes:


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