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crytklmass 12-14-2009 05:18 PM

New 800 series
 
I've read and heard rumors from my dealer that B&W will be releasing a new 800 series speaker. Prices will almost double and will only be Diamond tweeters with aluminum cabinets. No more wood. I don't know if there is any truth to this but sure is alot of talk going around. So much for upgrading to a pair of 800D @ $28,000.00 but perhaps I can sell my 802D's for the same price I paid. :thumbsup: Since the retail on those will be around $20,000.00. At those prices the Wilson Sasha switch sure is looking promising. Although I would like to Hear the new 800 series. Im sure there is more to the design change to justify those high prices.
C'mon Ya'll, what's the gossip? :scratch2: :smoking:

Still-One 12-14-2009 05:42 PM

Yep, I was speaking to a local dealer who indicated that the new line will be released at CES. All Diamond tweeters in the 800 series and probable revamp of the crossovers and some work on the mid-range.

JSCC 12-14-2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crytklmass (Post 53479)
I've read and heard rumors from my dealer that B&W will be releasing a new 800 series speaker. Prices will almost double and will only be Diamond tweeters with aluminum cabinets. No more wood. I don't know if there is any truth to this but sure is alot of talk going around. So much for upgrading to a pair of 800D @ $28,000.00 but perhaps I can sell my 802D's for the same price I paid. :thumbsup: Since the retail on those will be around $20,000.00. At those prices the Wilson Sasha switch sure is looking promising. Although I would like to Hear the new 800 series. Im sure there is more to the design change to justify those high prices.
C'mon Ya'll, what's the gossip? :scratch2: :smoking:

Wow, first its diamond tweeters that were the rave where some major speakers jumped onto the bandwagon, now ALUMINUM cabinets ... a la Krell, Magico & the famous ... "most accurate speakers in the world". :smoking:

Come to think about it, Celestion should lay claim to being the first speaker maker to use Aluminum, aircraft grade (aerolam, if I am not mistaken).

Still-One 12-14-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JSCC (Post 53504)
Wow, first its diamond tweeters that were the rave where some major speakers jumped onto the bandwagon, now ALUMINUM cabinets ... a la Krell, Magico & the famous ... "most accurate speakers in the world". :smoking:

Come to think about it, Celestion should lay claim to being the first speaker maker to use Aluminum, aircraft grade (aerolam, if I am not mistaken).

I did not hear that hey were going go aluminum cabinets but it is a possibility. Much easier to machine.

KahunaCanuck 12-14-2009 06:43 PM

It won't be aluminum cabinets...they just moved production back to England. Also pricing is not increasing that much...800Ds will be $24k US. the 800, 802($15k) & 803($10k) get changes to the internals only, cabinets will look similar...new colors. The big increase is the to the 804 ($7500)& 805 ($5k), which never had the diamonds previously. 801, HTM1 are discontinued.

Still-One 12-14-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KahunaCanuck (Post 53525)
It won't be aluminum cabinets...they just moved production back to England. Also pricing is not increasing that much...800Ds will be $24k US. the 800, 802($15k) & 803($10k) get changes to the internals only, cabinets will look similar...new colors. The big increase is the to the 804 ($7500)& 805 ($5k), which never had the diamonds previously. 801, HTM1 are discontinued.

That is exactly what I heard today. :thumbsup:

crytklmass 12-14-2009 06:54 PM

Are they staying with the same design and look? with wood and bowling ball top? or will they offer gloss piano black finish, etc. As said, I heard the rumor. Wasn't sure I believed the aluminum part. Be the salesperson did state they would not be wood. hmmmm
and they would be made in China. NO, NO, NO. I won't buy them if made in China.
Are you hearing this B&W? NO CHINA! Maybe that's where the pricing info. came from.

Still-One 12-14-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crytklmass (Post 53533)
Are they staying with the same design and look? with wood and bowling ball top? or will they offer gloss piano black finish, etc. As said, I heard the rumor. Wasn't sure I believed the aluminum part. Be the salesperson did state they would not be wood. hmmmm
and they would be made in China. NO, NO, NO. I won't buy them if made in China.
Are you hearing this B&W? NO CHINA! Maybe that's where the pricing info. came from.

The CM series is made in China. The 800 series has moved the cabinet production back from Denmark (?) to the UK. The 800 series will continue to be built there.

Don't knock the product built in China, it is competitive.

PHC1 12-14-2009 07:17 PM

The 800 series is not a bad speaker per say, some of them do need to be redesigned when it comes to bass, re-work the crossovers and drivers for less demand on the amps and if they are made in China, they should not charge that much for them. :no: Did someone mention Wilson Sasha? Dave Wilson runs a shop in Provo, Utah, employs local, provides a decent salary, benefits and 401K for his employees besides the point that his latest creations are virtually flawless and are a real bang for the buck all things considered. As many times as I've heard the 800 series, the Sasha is a much more balanced speaker overall and causes less problems in typical rooms but we'll see what the new 800 series brings to the table.

crytklmass 12-14-2009 07:42 PM

If B&W moves production to China, My current Speakers will be my last. Competitive or not. I will buy some Wilson's Made in the U.S.A. just like my McIntosh Amps. Support out jobs and our country. Yes I know, the internal parts are made in china and wherever but there built in the U.S. If they are built in china, the prices should be lowered by $5,000.00 since there employee's are paid less.


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