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Andrew Zakon 12-06-2016 05:39 PM

McIntosh MT10 upgrade: stock tonearm to SME V tonearm
 
Want to share my plans to upgrade stock tonearm to SME V, because it has more precise adjustments for my Van den Hull Colibri Gold XGP cartrige to get maximum performance and sound quality from MT10.
SME V arrived today:
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psdrpqwz1i.jpg

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...pss924vghf.jpg

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psbhfmffaf.jpg

Andrew Zakon 12-06-2016 06:01 PM

Now I am thinking how to arrange all the connections. SME V has a 5-pin connector and Van den Hull silver cable (~500$) in package which is 5-pin from one side and 2 RCA connectors fro other side. I have Transparent Audio Ultra G5 RCA-RCA phono cable which is connected to MT10 at present. I unscrewed back plate where stock connections are made:
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psj3pxfhfx.jpg

So I have 2 options to make all connections:
1. Remove original plate where connectors are located and change it for a new plate with small hole to pass through with original SME V cable which will go to phono stage input of my C52 preamp (my Transparent phono cables wil not be needed any more).
2. Cut the original cable leaving the 5-pin connectof from one side and solder the other side to the original connector plate as it was done at the factory (see photo above) and then connect it to phono input by my Transparent phono cables.
What will be opinions which option is better?

BlueSky 12-06-2016 07:34 PM

#1 would seem to be the simplest, most direct connection. There's nothing wrong with the SME OEM supplied cable.

John49 12-07-2016 08:44 AM

I agree with BlueSky. You want as few breaks in the connection as possible. The SME OEM cable can be improved upon however...

j3brow 12-07-2016 11:47 AM

McIntosh MT10 upgrade: stock tonearm to SME V tonearm
 
Andrew, I am very interested in this latest endeavor. I remember reading in MT10 threads, likely here at AA, that clearaudio advised a MT10 owner that it was not possible to replace the stock arm with a higher end clearaudio arm. How will you install the SME? Will a custom machined arm board be necessary? I have no knowledge of switching arm boards on any turntable let alone a MT10. To my knowledge, yours will be the first MT10 to receive a upgraded arm, and what an upgrade it is ... SME V!!!!

Andrew Zakon 12-07-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3brow (Post 818354)
Andrew, I am very interested in this latest endeavor. I remember reading in MT10 threads, likely here at AA, that clearaudio advised a MT10 owner that it was not possible to replace the stock arm with a higher end clearaudio arm. How will you install the SME? Will a custom machined arm board be necessary? I have no knowledge of switching arm boards on any turntable let alone a MT10. To my knowledge, yours will be the first MT10 to receive a upgraded arm, and what an upgrade it is ... SME V!!!!

Answer from Clearaudio:
"Regarding the tonearm: the SME V is a really good arm and I think it’s a good match for the MT10.

We can provide you a suitable armbase to mount the SME arm for sure. Please have a look at the attached catalogue for armboards:

You would need “AC031-1/B” - round SME base in black finish, page 3. (please note the prices are for the German market only)"

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...pswr6w3tt6.jpg

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psfofrslyk.jpg

Now trying to buy it...

Gravity1 12-08-2016 03:25 AM

Just a question here as an MT10 owner. Why would one want to "upgrade" the arm at all ? Cartridge upgrades I completely understand but very curious what actual audio benefits an arm upgrade could and would yield.

j3brow 12-08-2016 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Zakon (Post 818417)
Answer from Clearaudio:

"Regarding the tonearm: the SME V is a really good arm and I think it’s a good match for the MT10.



We can provide you a suitable armbase to mount the SME arm for sure. Please have a look at the attached catalogue for armboards:



You would need “AC031-1/B” - round SME base in black finish, page 3. (please note the prices are for the German market only)"



http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...pswr6w3tt6.jpg



http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psfofrslyk.jpg



Now trying to buy it...




Very intriguing!! Look forward to your thoughts on sonic improvements.

audio bill 12-08-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity1 (Post 818505)
Just a question here as an MT10 owner. Why would one want to "upgrade" the arm at all ? Cartridge upgrades I completely understand but very curious what actual audio benefits an arm upgrade could and would yield.

Tonearms make a significant contribution to the overall performance level of a turntable system. Some believe that as long as the table spins quietly at the proper speed and the arm is rigid that the cartridge is primarily responsible for the sound quality. Part of this belief is due to the fact that the cartridge is a transducer which changes mechanical energy from the stylus movement into an electrical signal. If it were only that simple audiophiles could save a lot of money in their analog setups. When listening comparisons have actually been performed it has been shown that the cartridge is actually the least significant component compared to the turntable itself and tonearm. So while the tonearm on the MT10 is of good quality like most things in audio there is always something better. Upgrading the tonearm on the MT10 should prove to provide significant improvements with any given cartridge. Hope this helps!

Andrew Zakon 12-08-2016 04:02 PM

My friend had made a acrylic replica of original Clearaudio “AC031-1/B” - round SME base just to try while waiting for original. But the color is BLU:icon_thumbsdown:
here the result of not finished installation:

This is original tonearm with all the wiring:
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psxmb25aby.jpg

This is table without tonearm:
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psesqrskyc.jpg

Here is SME V installed without cartridge:

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psrcbchomn.jpg

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...pszycpvqv7.jpg

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/...psguyjyjof.jpg


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