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JWJW 08-31-2014 07:33 PM

A.R. Reference 75 vs. Mc MC275VI?
 
Well, the AR Ref. 75 is almost double the price. Has anyone compared the two side by side? The AR looks gorgeous, but the MC275 is a proven beast.

Which would you put in YOUR living room? :scratch2:

stollen 08-31-2014 08:47 PM

The ARC, if only because the Mc is an odd layout. I would like to have an ARC stack in my main 2 channel system. Maybe someday...

2fastdriving 08-31-2014 11:41 PM

The ref75 really is a giant killer. It's an amazing amp for the price. While it may seem expensive, it's actually a "bargain"

JWJW 09-01-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 635050)
The ref75 really is a giant killer. It's an amazing amp for the price. While it may seem expensive, it's actually a "bargain"

I noticed in your signature you have a 75! NICE. I assume you have been happy with it? Has it been low maintenance? Your impressions please! Thx

capt.chaos 09-01-2014 02:24 PM

The MC275 for sure. There is no way the AR sounds twice as go as the Mac. I would probably buy two MC275's over one Reference 75.

2fastdriving 09-01-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JWJW (Post 635093)

I noticed in your signature you have a 75! NICE. I assume you have been happy with it? Has it been low maintenance? Your impressions please! Thx

I have never heard the mc275, so I can't offer a comparison, but the ref75 is simply incredible. It sounds far bigger than its rating suggests. It has the smoothest mids I've ever heard. Paired with the Ref 5, it's a match made in heaven. It drives Sasha's with ease.

mati1979 09-01-2014 06:49 PM

Marc, how many hs can be work "stable" ref 75 with same tubes ?
im thinking about this change in future. But really i play music min 2-3 hs per day
(between stereo music and many films) and my other problem is "tone control" in my pre. I need in my small room descend -4-5 bass.

jpgr4blu 09-01-2014 08:33 PM

The ARC house sound and the Mac house sound are so completely different that it is really not a matter of one ARC Ref 75 vs 2 Mac 275s. A single Ref 75 and a single Mac 275 are robust enough to drive many speakers as much as need be. Those that need gobs of watts (or current) will need Mc 2301s or ARC Ref 250s.
As to the differences in sound, you should listen to both on the same system. Mac is a lit from within pleasant, burnished, rounded sound while ARC is more transparent with a midrange bloom. Mac does not cast tremendous width and depth in the soundfield as ARC does. Some feel that ARC is too bloomy. But I find it to be a great attribute.
My personal preference is ARC. But 12 years ago before the latest 2 generations of Ref series from ARC , I preferred Mac.
Rest assured, they sound very different.

2fastdriving 09-01-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jpgr4blu (Post 635291)
The ARC house sound and the Mac house sound are so completely different that it is really not a matter of one ARC Ref 75 vs 2 Mac 275s. A single Ref 75 and a single Mac 275 are robust enough to drive many speakers as much as need be. Those that need gobs of watts (or current) will need Mc 2301s or ARC Ref 250s.
As to the differences in sound, you should listen to both on the same system. Mac is a lit from within pleasant, burnished, rounded sound while ARC is more transparent with a midrange bloom. Mac does not cast tremendous width and depth in the soundfield as ARC does. Some feel that ARC is too bloomy. But I find it to be a great attribute.
My personal preference is ARC. But 12 years ago before the latest 2 generations of Ref series from ARC , I preferred Mac.
Rest assured, they sound very different.

Really well said. I'm not super familiar with the mc275, but your description of the arc is spot on in my opinion.

2fastdriving 09-01-2014 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mati1979 (Post 635254)
Marc, how many hs can be work "stable" ref 75 with same tubes ?
im thinking about this change in future. But really i play music min 2-3 hs per day
(between stereo music and many films) and my other problem is "tone control" in my pre. I need in my small room descend -4-5 bass.

I am not sure how long the arc tubes last, I haven't had mine too long. I am not sure a home theater is the best environment for it, but I bet others do it. I'm don't understand what the problem is with the tone controls... Seems like an Ok thing to do if you need to.


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