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70sMac 08-07-2019 05:06 PM
Christian...... Thank you for the post. Do you happen to know if, like the Pioneer unit appearing in this thread, the Sony(s) contain a DAC connected to the rear audio output(s)?

rnrmf1971 08-07-2019 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 975299)
Christian...... Thank you for the post. Do you happen to know if, like the Pioneer unit appearing in this thread, the Sony(s) contain a DAC connected to the rear audio output(s)?
These Sony's do have a DAC. You're guaranteed a digital component has a built in DAC if it has analog outputs because the digital signal is being converted to an analog signal and sent to those outputs.

But... if you're asking if the Sony's have DIGITAL INPUTS to use its internal DAC with another component, that answer is no.
(edit: The Pioneer doesn't have digital inputs, either)

70sMac 08-07-2019 06:34 PM
Christian.....Great point about the DAC. Yes, a digital source will probably have a DAC on board if it's to "convert" anything to analog ... D.A.C. Wow! I better put this phone down before I permanentIy injure myself! :doh:

doggiehowser 08-07-2019 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 975292)
DoggieHowser......If you happen to [ever] see this, I was wondering if you have any updated recommendations related to this thread's topic? Once again, we have some SACD type CDs that we would like to enjoy, but the Sony UDP-X800 we own has only (2) HDMI receptacles on its rear panel, so using this particular blu ray player as a source for SACD audio is problematic.



I researched both of the links you kindly provided and, put simply, the DAC is too expensive ... but the Pioneer unit you linked me to is more like it. Considering the pace of technology, do you have a newer and/or better recommendation now?



Thanks for your time...


If the Sony has two HDMI output - one can go to the TV and one to the HDMI DAC.

The Pioneer is an Elite player and will cost more than the Sony.

There is a “better” model called the LX800 but I prefer the 500 for its AKM DAC

70sMac 08-07-2019 09:02 PM
Better?
 
Doggiehowser.....Putting the DAC you prefer aside, what is it about the Pioneer LX800 that you think is better. Does it have something to do its upgraded video capability? Please elaborate.

Kal Rubinson 08-07-2019 09:48 PM
This might be of use: https://www.essenceelectrostatic.com...1-channel-dac/

Works quite well.

doggiehowser 08-08-2019 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 975325)
Doggiehowser.....Putting the DAC you prefer aside, what is it about the Pioneer LX800 that you think is better. Does it have something to do its upgraded video capability? Please elaborate.

The analog and digital circuits are from the Pioneer network streamer. It has XLR outputs.

Video circuitry is the same. IMHO the Panasonic UB820 has better video processing.

xv21 08-09-2019 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 975292)
DoggieHowser......If you happen to [ever] see this, I was wondering if you have any updated recommendations related to this thread's topic? Once again, we have some SACD type CDs that we would like to enjoy, but the Sony UDP-X800 we own has only (2) HDMI receptacles on its rear panel, so using this particular blu ray player as a source for SACD audio is problematic.

I researched both of the links you kindly provided and, put simply, the DAC is too expensive ... but the Pioneer unit you linked me to is more like it. Considering the pace of technology, do you have a newer and/or better recommendation now?
If you really want to benefit from SACD audio quality, you need a really expensive SACD player like Esoteric. Good SACD players are much more expensive than good CD players.

bart 08-09-2019 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by xv21 (Post 975446)
If you really want to benefit from SACD audio quality, you need a really expensive SACD player like Esoteric. Good SACD players are much more expensive than good CD players.



Often, but not always...

https://www.stereophile.com/content/...-one-cd-player

bing! 08-12-2019 12:09 PM
I have the UBX-X700 and looked at the UBX-800 very closely too.

These players do not have an RCA output. As far as I know, you need a DAC, the RCA you think is there is actually a digital coax out.

I did not try to retrieve and analog signal from the HDMI outputs via an adapter.


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