Gryphon Diablo 300
New incarnation of already excellent SS integrated from the Danish Gryphon Audio has been presented in Munich Hi-Fi show. Except of changed appearance that follows design of Mephisto, they improved preamp with tehnology of their flagship Pandora pre, improved volume control,new improved state of the art parts,redisigned and improved amp with tehnology taken from Mephisto and also more power. Now it goes 300W 8 Ohm - 600W 4 Ohm and 950W in 2 Ohm. This integrated aint cheap...cca 15000Eu will be his price when it gets out in two months...it has optional modules for phono and DAC...dac will be based on much expensive big brother reference Kalliope...dac module will cost about 6000Eu but atleast you can forget about interconnect cable.
what to say...i have original Diablo which is a great product IMO but ten years has passed after Gryphon started production...now they learned enough and better parts are available to make meaningful step up from original Diablo from evolutional sense...they dont have habbit to make new integrated every two years just to make money but with minimal upgrading...in ongoing tradition of Gryphon integrateds i have no doubt they will make even more better amp...i allready talked with my dealer for audition when it comes out... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...337090be47.jpg http://www.audiophiles.eu/wp-content...9299282235.jpg Gryphon Diablo 300 Kind Regards |
One of the most intriguing product launches at the Munich show in May this year. One of the first units will reach our showroom in Stockholm soon. Can't wait :)
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I want one.
Do you think it would too much to have one in a bedroom system? |
I listened this device 1 week ago. I am not impressed.
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Eisener...i see you are a man of a few words...please, where did you have chance to hear this amp, how long was session, in what conditions was the room you listened and with what speakers, source and cables. Im curious about your refined taste...what pieces of equipment impress you and please if you dont mind list us your impressive system you got at home...i know i sound like KGB agent a little with these questions but we are in a public forum so folks would like to know a few arguments how this or any amp sounds when describing...not just trowing a bone...
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Cables: 1) acoustic - Micromega, 2) interconnect and power - some american brand, very rare in Ukraine. I don't remember name, I may ask. It was setup of my friend, I heard these speakers with 4 various amps including Cary SLI-80 and ASR. I know this System about 10 years, after any up-grades my friend always invites me for auditioning. Room (about 20 sq meters) - acoustically prepared a little bit, but nothing special. It was my last visit 2 weeks ago, I've been with my companion, we've been dissapointed by sound of System on classical music (big orchestra). System sounds good on small chamber orchestra, jazz and vocal music. I don't know why this disaster happened - may be just absence of synergy between speakers and amp or something else. But I never met such problem with audio eqiupment with such price tags. Our verdict was - amp. It can be taken into consideration as version of course. Very strange. Few words re Gryphon brand. I remember claims on Soundex.ru regarding exfoliation of tracks on plates of Gryphon amps. |
I even have 1 photo (forgot about it). :D
There are feet under CD Player - it's my own manufacture. http://f19.ifotki.info/org/40f0a7e9a...3222895518.jpg |
Eisener thanx for your time to write this up...Did not heard that model od Davis Acoustic speakers but if im not wrong their retail was about 2500Eu which is very big difference between pedigree of that equipment and Gryphon...Diablo is VERY neutral amp that reveals all good and bad things in system so by my experience it could be system synergy very likely the problem. I know this becuz i have that amp from your picture and that is old Diablo not new and i had chance to try it with more than few cables sources and speakers and the best results was when matched with equipment of similiar pedigree. Im also dissapoined to hear it did not work for you cuz on my Dynaudio C4 mk2, Kuzma Reference mk2 turntable and crystal cables ultra ic and speaker cables actualy works very well with all music but works best with large orchestral music...dynamic, soundstage, details, timber and rest is on level so this statment of yours really suprised me. Maybe you just did not like it...anyway thanx on your time...
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it only takes up one space on your rack which is ideal. will drive any speaker as well, so you can have low-sensitivity mini monitors and such. :thumbsup: having said that, have heard the old diablo, and while it was good, it really is not even close to the gryphon separates that i have heard. the marketing always points to minimal compromise by choosing the integrated approach, but it's much more than that, unfortunately. |
Analog brother i agree with your statement, real Gryphon are their "no free lunch" class A separates and stereo amps...Atilla and Diablo are their entry level high bias class A/B components...but their price difference is not to forget...Anitlleon Sig stereo cost about 30K eu and lets say Mirage pre is bout 23K eu...and how much would quality cables cost for them...clearly you must spend fortune to buy their separates (not to mention Mephisto and Pandora)...even in second hand...would like to have them, but back to the real world Diablo IS one of the best and strongest SS one box solution out there if you like the flavor...i wonder how big step up will new Diablo be...
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I just talk to my friend, he changed acoustic cable.
So may be it will change something in Sound. I gonna visit him soon. |
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The photo Eisener Bart posted of the amp he heard in his friend's system indicates it is the old model, and not a Gryphon Diablo 300.
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Good,now I can get some serious heat into the bedroom..... |
At Enceintes et Musiques in France.
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well wizard...unleash the beast...tell us what it sounds...more better if you have experience with the old diablo tell us differences you noticed most between models...and gear used with please...
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Hi Wizard,
Congratulations on new 'devil', hardly wait for your observation on it especially if you can compare with old devil. Interesting is to see that you have 2 pieces of Diablo 300, also that you install phono module by yourself, not made by factory. Did you order D/A module for the second? Also waiting for more photos. |
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But the sound is only after 2 days much better than the old one. |
denisg... Welcome to AA! :wave:
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Diablo 300 Phonomodule.
https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...71316196_o.jpg Fully discrete low noise circuit, dual mono, mirrored pcb layout, no opamps in the signal path. Super short signal path, No cables. Legato Legacy technology. Selectable MC loading. |
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Hi Wizard,
This is like Chinese torture :64714-slap:, please give us more of your impressions also more pics :D. If possible also any info about D/A. Thank you. Off topic: never seen such crazy collection of Smiles, I had to use them. :icon_greenbouncer: |
Just find video on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8eXtrPISdo Unfortunately doesn't understand french language, but it is nice to see Diablo 300 in details, very impressive inside :eek2:. |
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Please try and pull yourselves away for a few minutes Diablo 300 owners :D
Id love to hear any feedback about this amp .. |
Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Diablo 300 But Were Afraid to Ask you can find in this review:
Mono and Stereo High-End Audio Magazine: Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated amplifier review Enjoy. |
I am glad i found this post as I am looking at maybe getting the new amp and i have it down to 3 choices, Diablo, BHK 300's or T+A PA 3000HV. Any thoughts would be welcomed...
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I just got the Diablo 300. It replaced Jeff Rowland Continuum S2.
In comparison (in my room, with my speakers, and my ears) the former is far superior. SixMoons named it "possibly the best integrated in the world". The areas where I find it to shine the most is bass control, depth of soundstage, micro details and speed. |
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Too bad that after all these years they still have no active US distribution.
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Thanks jdandy. I agree about the looks. The JR was a prettier think. Gryphons products are more brutal in their looks.
I hope they find a partner in the US in order to let more people have a listen. I don't know the reason for the absence but here in Sweden they have just "rearranged" their distribution channels. Kicking some out - bringing new ones in. |
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Bill, I was very interested in obtaining a Gryphon amp a little over a year ago. It turned out to be a frustrating ordeal to say the least and only in part due to Gryphon's lack of a US distributor. What I understood, and could be incorrect, is that Gryphon had a bad experience with a previous US distributor and it soured them on the US market. |
I believe that problems with their previous US distributor (decades ago!) as you stated along with a less than favorable review of one of their products by TAS killed their interest in marketing the products here. Their website states that they're "seeking a well established, experienced distributor only" for the US but it's been that way for years.
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It's a bit sad that Gryphon has problems to get good partners. They are one of the best Hi-End producers there is. The North Americans should be able to listen to them.
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