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o0OBillO0o 10-13-2012 08:06 AM
Hey Folks,

The Classe CP-800 just hit my "audio" radar.. It's a big blip and approaching fast.

Okay, here is the deal, its a preamp with USB, Digital in, Bass Management, and full Apple iDevice certification. Nothing mind blowing.

http://www.classeaudio.com/images-pr...P-800_A_LG.jpg

But it's fully balanced from in to out with lots of flexibility, yes, it has HT bypass too.

http://www.classeaudio.com/images-pr...P-800_B_LG.jpg

To think that if I wanted to play 24bit/96khz files, located on my iMac, via my iPad (plugged in the front Apple licensed port), i could! ..and control it all from the classe remote at my couch makes this appealing to me.

Additionally, one could use a Mac Mini plugged in via USB, with thousands of songs, and control it all from an iPad.. Very cool.

This is all for about $5,000 USD


Course this is also leading to other B&W group products too ;)

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mbovaird 10-13-2012 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o
Hey Folks,

The Classe CP-800 just hit my "audio" radar.. It's a big blip and approaching fast.

Okay, here is the deal, its a preamp with USB, Digital in, Bass Management, and full Apple iDevice certification. Nothing mind blowing.

But it's fully balanced from in to out with lots of flexibility, yes, it has HT bypass too.

To think that if I wanted to play 24bit/96khz files, located on my iMac, via my iPad (plugged in the front Apple licensed port), i could! ..and control it all from the classe remote at my couch makes this appealing to me.

Additionally, one could use a Mac Mini plugged in via USB, with thousands of songs, and control it all from an iPad.. Very cool.

This is all for about $5,000 USD

Course this is also leading to other B&W group products too ;)

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Bill - I owned this for 3 months and sold it. Purchase price was $3800 (new). It sounded too mechanical to my liking. I liked the functionality, but not the sound. My two cents is a Mcintosh 2300 or c50. Both sound much better to my ear - especially the 2300. The Musical Fidelity M1 DAC plus a 2300 is a much better sound for about the same $5k. PM me if you need help computer audio stuff.

Mike

o0OBillO0o 10-13-2012 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird (Post 378033)
Bill - I owned this for 3 months and sold it. Purchase price was $3800 (new). It sounded too mechanical to my liking. I liked the functionality, but not the sound. My two cents is a Mcintosh 2300 or c50. Both sound much better to my ear - especially the 2300. The Musical Fidelity M1 DAC plus a 2300 is a much better sound for about the same $5k. PM me if you need help computer audio stuff.

Mike

Mike, really appreciate your input. Mechanical to me sounds like "clicking", "grinding" and "spurious noise." I am a Mc-Fan so having an all McIntosh Audio system is important for integration and looks. I know of a place that has both Classe and McIntosh gear set-up, I will call ahead to make sure they have plenty of options to A/B.

I find that there is a great deal of conscious audiophiles sticking with analog pre-amps and swapping out (external) DACs as technology advances. It's a safe bet as the DAC segment and Computer Audio Segment is booming. Still with the majority of music available in CD format, I think, we need to catch our breath until there the infrastructure and music catalog catch up to support something better than "CD Quality."

As far as computer stuff.. I have an iMac and an AppleTV. The AppleTV plays most of my music and movies. I bought the MS300 to mainly do batch ripping, as when it's hooked up to my Sony CD changer it can import all 400 CD & tracks (with the right meta data and album art) with out any of my input. It's a god-send. I use FLAC and convert to ALAC.

I do play all things digital into the back of the MCD500 and then to my hometheater receiver. Which is where I want to make the improvement in 2 Channel. Pre amp to speakers improvement if required and that would start with new, to me, speakers, then amp..

Thanks,

Bill:music:

mbovaird 10-13-2012 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

Mike, really appreciate your input. Mechanical to me sounds like "clicking", "grinding" and "spurious noise." I am a Mc-Fan so having an all McIntosh Audio system is important for integration and looks. I know of a place that has both Classe and McIntosh gear set-up, I will call ahead to make sure they have plenty of options to A/B.

I find that there is a great deal of conscious audiophiles sticking with analog pre-amps and swapping out (external) DACs as technology advances. It's a safe bet as the DAC segment and Computer Audio Segment is booming. Still with the majority of music available in CD format, I think, we need to catch our breath until there the infrastructure and music catalog catch up to support something better than "CD Quality."

As far as computer stuff.. I have an iMac and an AppleTV. The AppleTV plays most of my music and movies. I bought the MS300 to mainly do batch ripping, as when it's hooked up to my Sony CD changer it can import all 400 CD & tracks (with the right meta data and album art) with out any of my input. It's a god-send. I use FLAC and convert to ALAC.

I do play all things digital into the back of the MCD500 and then to my hometheater receiver. Which is where I want to make the improvement in 2 Channel. Pre amp to speakers improvement if required and that would start with new, to me, speakers, then amp..

Thanks,

Bill:music:
I use a Mac Mini with Audirvana and a WW Platinum USB cable going into a Musical Fidelity 192 VLink USB to SPDI/F. I come out of the MF VLink, and into e MCD1100 digital XLR input. Once the update on the MCD1100 is done in a week, I will come out of the Mac Mini direct into the MCD1100 USB input and enjoy 32/192 (the rumor is 32/192, but 24/192 is fine too). I then use my iPad (apple remote works beautifully) to sort and listen to all my music which has been tirelessly ripped to Apple Lossless. I buy FLAC tracks from HDTRACKS and convert using some freebie program to Apple Lossless.

o0OBillO0o 10-13-2012 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird (Post 378052)
I use a Mac Mini with Audirvana and a WW Platinum USB cable going into a Musical Fidelity 192 VLink USB to SPDI/F. I come out of the MF VLink, and into e MCD1100 digital XLR input. Once the update on the MCD1100 is done in a week, I will come out of the Mac Mini direct into the MCD1100 USB input and enjoy 32/192 (the rumor is 32/192, but 24/192 is fine too). I then use my iPad (apple remote works beautifully) to sort and listen to all my music which has been tirelessly ripped to Apple Lossless. I buy FLAC tracks from HDTRACKS and convert using some freebie program to Apple Lossless.
Mike, I do hope McIntosh releases the MCD1100's USB "magic."

Ivan commented that you may have to send it back for a board upgrade.. look for his recent comments from RMAF 2012..

o0OBillO0o 10-13-2012 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

Mike, I do hope McIntosh releases the MCD1100's USB "magic."

Ivan commented that you may have to send it back for a board upgrade.. look for his recent comments from RMAF 2012..
One more thing, I'm alluded to the McIntosh C500's fully balanced design, hence the interest in the CP-800 with extremely flexible features.

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enatai252 10-13-2012 02:26 PM
Bill


I think the CP-800 is worth a listen. I compared with many of the options out there and prefer it to almost all of them. I do use a ARC Ref DAC in my main system....that is better but less flexible and 3X more.. I do not hear anything mechanical or clinical in my system...where it front ends a Woo WES/Stax 009s...which are very revealing and demanding of font end gear. I use the USB from MAC, digital feed from Naim HDX, and balanced analog from ASR Basis Ex phono ( in bypass mode).

Highly recommended by me for the application you are considering...simple flexible and great sounding. But listen for yourself

o0OBillO0o 10-13-2012 04:19 PM
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Bill

I think the CP-800 is worth a listen. I compared with many of the options out there and prefer it to almost all of them. I do use a ARC Ref DAC in my main system....that is better but less flexible and 3X more.. I do not hear anything mechanical or clinical in my system...where it front ends a Woo WES/Stax 009s...which are very revealing and demanding of font end gear. I use the USB from MAC, digital feed from Naim HDX, and balanced analog from ASR Basis Ex phono ( in bypass mode).

Highly recommended by me for the application you are considering...simple flexible and great sounding. But listen for yourself
This is what I was thinking..

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mbovaird 10-13-2012 05:50 PM
Bill - what amps are you using? If I was going down this route, I would look at the ModWright KWI200 with the optional DAC (and Phono) card. The MOSFETS in the KWI200 should give you a nice tube like sound.

Do you need bass management with your F113's? You could look at the ModWright KWI200 with a Velodyne SMS-1.

Another option is the McIntosh C50.

Admittedly, the CP-800 certainly gives you a lot of candy for money. Hard to beat...and everything worked flawlessly when I had it. I just couldn't get use to the sound. Sorry...but that was just me. You may love it in your room.

That being said, a Classe' setup is on my list to explore for my Family Room setup.

Your MS300 going into the Classe' CP-800 could give you a world class digital performer. I would put a Bryston BDP-2 upstairs and move my Mac Mini downstairs. I would also add a sub (or two) to my Bookshelf speakers and the CP-800 bass management would handle the crossover. OK, damn it, it does have a lot of features for the money!

Make sure you check out some of the new NAD stuff as well.

What about PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC II and Memory Player? The PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC II can be used as a preamp.

Lots of great options.

Mike

mbovaird 10-13-2012 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o (Post 378267)
This is what I was thinking..

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The future of audio? Who knows - but ripping all your music to lossless and sitting your butt on the sofa/chair and controlling everything via an iPad is quite magical.

o0OBillO0o 10-14-2012 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird
Bill - what amps are you using? If I was going down this route, I would look at the ModWright KWI200 with the optional DAC (and Phono) card. The MOSFETS in the KWI200 should give you a nice tube like sound.

Do you need bass management with your F113's? You could look at the ModWright KWI200 with a Velodyne SMS-1.

Another option is the McIntosh C50.

Admittedly, the CP-800 certainly gives you a lot of candy for money. Hard to beat...and everything worked flawlessly when I had it. I just couldn't get use to the sound. Sorry...but that was just me. You may love it in your room.

That being said, a Classe' setup is on my list to explore for my Family Room setup.

Your MS300 going into the Classe' CP-800 could give you a world class digital performer. I would put a Bryston BDP-2 upstairs and move my Mac Mini downstairs. I would also add a sub (or two) to my Bookshelf speakers and the CP-800 bass management would handle the crossover. OK, damn it, it does have a lot of features for the money!

Make sure you check out some of the new NAD stuff as well.

What about PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC II and Memory Player? The PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC II can be used as a preamp.

Lots of great options.

Mike
Looked at the NAD stuff, the M51 is quite possibly the hottest product in its segment. HDMI in/out and 38bit /nearly unlimited kHz.. USB class2 24/192! Very appealing.. Where is the NAD amp to pair or a M2 mk II???

I'm going to audition all the Mc preamps so I know what I perceive as the real difference. I want McIntosh to win and it may if the MCD1100 is as good as jdandy and Masterlu say it is.. If true.. then I may use the MCD1100 as a preamp and DAC from my Apple Computer.

If I stick with Klipsch then it's a no brainier to use the MC275. Otherwise, the MC601 pair is in my sights and maybe Harbeth 40.1, who knows!

Back to the CP-800 & CA-M600 w/ 802s, I'm sure I'd be like everyone else or look like Im trying to copy Abbey Road Studios.. Still great looking and fantastic sounding system could be at hand, with pro credibility.

Lots and lots of options is right! Love this hobby!!
Bill

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mbovaird 10-14-2012 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

Looked at the NAD stuff, the M51 is quite possibly the hottest product in its segment. HDMI in/out and 38bit /nearly unlimited kHz.. USB class2 24/192! Very appealing.. Where is the NAD amp to pair or a M2 mk II???

I'm going to audition all the Mc preamps so I know what I perceive as the real difference. I want McIntosh to win and it may if the MCD1100 is as good as jdandy and Masterlu say it is.. If true.. then I may use the MCD1100 as a preamp and DAC from my Apple Computer.

If I stick with Klipsch then it's a no brainier to use the MC275. Otherwise, the MC601 pair is in my sights and maybe Harbeth 40.1, who knows!

Back to the CP-800 & CA-M600 w/ 802s, I'm sure I'd be like everyone else or look like Im trying to copy Abbey Road Studios.. Still great looking and fantastic sounding system could be at hand, with pro credibility.

Lots and lots of options is right! Love this hobby!!
Bill

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The MCD1100 is that good. I would never sell mine. Incredible quad dacd, cd, SACD, options galore. Incredible sound.

o0OBillO0o 10-14-2012 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird

The MCD1100 is that good. I would never sell mine. Incredible quad dacd, cd, SACD, options galore. Incredible sound.
Ok Mike, I'll add you in with Ivan and Dan. The dealer near where I will be in Dec has both McIntosh and Classe, I plan on bringing my MCD500 & MS300!

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o0OBillO0o 10-14-2012 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o (Post 378816)
Ok Mike, I'll add you in with Ivan and Dan. The dealer near where I will be in Dec has both McIntosh and Classe, I plan on bringing my MCD500 & MS300!

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Here is my dealer's show room..

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...46687456_o.jpg

Christmas72 01-03-2013 03:46 AM
I own a cp-800, ca-2300, B&W 802 Diamond connected with a mac mini and A+.I play my ripped cds or a lot HD music bought from HD Tracks,Linn, and so on.
i have to say that i am greatly satisfied with this combination.musically speaking it is great.
only disappointing that the update to make the DAC work at 24/192 and the ethernet port alive has not happened yet despite a lot of "promises". right now cp-800 is almost two years old now.maybe is time for me to move on?

fourxmotion 01-03-2013 12:06 PM
The DAC does work at 24/192 using the Coax or AES/EBU input with software version 1.01. The USB input is limited right now to 24/96.

mbovaird 01-03-2013 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Christmas72 (Post 420496)
I own a cp-800, ca-2300, B&W 802 Diamond connected with a mac mini and A+.I play my ripped cds or a lot HD music bought from HD Tracks,Linn, and so on.
i have to say that i am greatly satisfied with this combination.musically speaking it is great.
only disappointing that the update to make the DAC work at 24/192 and the ethernet port alive has not happened yet despite a lot of "promises". right now cp-800 is almost two years old now.maybe is time for me to move on?
Stay the course. I know someone inside Classe who told me they are testing it. He figured March. Maybe April at the latest. It WILL require you to send the unit in.

Mike

jdandy 01-03-2013 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird (Post 420644)
Stay the course. I know someone inside Classe who told me they are testing it. He figured March. Maybe April at the latest. It WILL require you to send the unit in.
Mike........Wait a minute. After all the MCD1100 bashing over its USB input not operating at 32bit/192kHz when it was released, and how this is ruining McIntosh's reputation, now I'm hearing the Classe' CP-800 is without even 24bit/192kHz capabilities and no actual delivery time for the firmware update even after two years, plus a dead Ethernet port. Oh my! Looks like Classe' may be on the skids, too. Where are all the Classe' dooms day saber rattlers? This is horrible. :D

mbovaird 01-03-2013 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jdandy (Post 420655)

Mike........Wait a minute. After all the MCD1100 bashing over its USB input not operating at 32bit/192kHz when it was released, and how this is ruining McIntosh's reputation, now I'm hearing the Classe' CP-800 is without even 24bit/192kHz capabilities and no actual delivery time for the firmware update even after two years. Oh my! Looks like Classe' may be on the skids, too. Where are all the Classe' dooms day saber rattlers? This is horrible. :D
That wasn't the issue. The first MCD1100 was a brick. The second wouldn't play SACD's (noise on right channel), the third MCD1100 USB didn't even work (nothing - regardless of bit rate), and the fourth was perfect and I sold it. The Classe is 24/96 (on USB only and 24/192 on all other inputs) and is fine for the $ I paid for it (new). The USB only being 24/96 (for now) is well advertised to potential buyers AND the 24/96 will downsample and play 24/196 files....so I'm cool with that. If I had to pack it up - three times - and it was misadvertised, then, oh you bet, I would be ticked. That being said, if I buy a new CD/SACD player (which I need since my Oppo is my only player now) - it would be Esoteric all the way.

KMC45 01-03-2013 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jdandy (Post 420655)
Mike........Wait a minute. After all the MCD1100 bashing over its USB input not operating at 32bit/192kHz when it was released, and how this is ruining McIntosh's reputation, now I'm hearing the Classe' CP-800 is without even 24bit/192kHz capabilities and no actual delivery time for the firmware update even after two years, plus a dead Ethernet port. Oh my! Looks like Classe' may be on the skids, too. Where are all the Classe' dooms day saber rattlers? This is horrible. :D
Dan,

Stay the course, stay the course................:roflmao:

When I read about this a few hours ago I was laughing so hard I nearly fell off my chair.:D

jdandy 01-03-2013 04:21 PM
Mike.......I am not specifically addressing the unusual stream of issues you experienced, and I have no clue why this happened to you. I have some thoughts, but since they are unsubstantiated I'll keep them to myself. I just had to stick a few pins in the Classe' doll.

Two years and still no update? I'm thinking a new Classe' model, maybe the CP-900 with the USB update, will make the CP-800 obsolete before the firmware for the CP-800 ever sees the light of day. :rolleyes: :D

jdandy 01-03-2013 04:42 PM
Say it isn't so. A crippled USB input and a dead Ethernet port on the Classe' CP-800 with no solution for over TWO years.


.................................................. ...................... OMG!



http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/q...psd96bea17.jpg


:roflmao:

mbovaird 01-03-2013 05:20 PM
You're missing the point about the CP-800. Everything works as advertised and promised (unlike the 1100). With the 1100 I had to BUY another product just to use the product I already paid to use. I had to buy a USB to SPDIF converter. An unnecessary expense just to be able to use the product I already bought.

The CP-800 USB input works perfectly (unlike when I bought my 1100). The CP-800 plays 24/192 files - it just down converts them - which is fine and actually sounds great. The reason the fix is taking so long is because they are not only adding the 24/192, but they are adding three or four more features to the preamp. I won't pretend to defend a 2 year fix as being reasonable - it's not. It's completely unreasonable - but at least I didn't have to buy another product just to make it work. It works as advertised, sounds great and didn't cost an arm and a leg.

jdandy 01-03-2013 05:34 PM
Mike.......Too late, the cats out of the bag. :lmao:


http://www.balidiscovery.com/images/715/cat-bag-in.jpg


I'm not trying to fluff your feathers, just having some fun. Don't worry, that USB software and Ethernet fix will be here as soon as the ship arrives. It's a long trip from the other side of the world. :D

enatai252 01-03-2013 06:22 PM
Dan


I do not get your logic at all. I believe you are just having fun. But I don't get the value... It's not funny and seems inconsistent with most of your posts, which I find very informative.

I have never selected McIntosh products so I don't comment on them... You seem to be obsessed with commenting on Classe. Either in this thread or your comments elsewhere on China production. I suggest you buy one and you may change your mind. Or it least you would have an informed opinion.

I own the Classe and it does exactly what it said it did when I bought it. It meets my needs and has never required repair and sounds very good. I can understand the user's dellima who bought it for 24/192 USB and is still waiting. I would not be happy either. To use this example to somehow say McIntosh is not as bad as... seems silly.

I can say the Classe SSP processors are the best I have heard. I have 2 and would highly recommend. Just my 2 cents. Respectfully...

jdandy 01-03-2013 06:59 PM
enatai252.......I didn't realize the Classe' crowd was so thin skinned. There's no logic to get. I am just poking some fun at a couple issues that have come to light. It is not out of my character in the slightest to play around when an opportunity presents itself. I know the Classe' gang is as loyal to their line as the McIntosh gang. I don't want to crash anyone's party so l'll leave you folks in peace. :whistle:

BTW, I'm not Jim. My name is Dan.

enatai252 01-03-2013 08:39 PM
Dan

Thanks for clarifying...not thin-skinned...just providing some friendly feedback. You are welcome to stay at the party...its not my house and I am just a thankful guest.

Cheers

MyPal 01-03-2013 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jdandy (Post 420681)
Mike.......Too late, the cats out of the bag. :lmao:

I'm not trying to fluff your feathers, just having some fun. Don't worry, that USB software and Ethernet fix will be here as soon as the ship arrives. It's a long trip from the other side of the world. :D
Is that an 802 Diamond in the bag? As long as B&W continue production of the 802 Diamonds where ever in the world that may be....there will always be Classe to back them up. :p

Christmas72 01-04-2013 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird (Post 420644)

Stay the course. I know someone inside Classe who told me they are testing it. He figured March. Maybe April at the latest. It WILL require you to send the unit in.

Mike
I see.but i read this old news since more than one year now.i am almost at the point to think cp-800 is "obsolete".i mean cp-800 was a great news when came out, now is well followed if not passed, by many new products in the market.why should i wait and for what?it sounds like the c-50 dilemma...

maybe it is a hardware upgrade and since i live in china i am screwed:cp-800 has not been introduced here because they need to have the CCC certificate to be imported and the classe' dealer would not be able to help me.this unfortunately applies to all the latest classe products. mcintosh is very well established here and they have CCC certificate for almost all their products...

Christmas72 01-04-2013 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jdandy (Post 420662)

Two years and still no update? I'm thinking a new Classe' model, maybe the CP-900 with the USB update, will make the CP-800 obsolete before the firmware for the CP-800 ever sees the light of day. :rolleyes: :D
This is exactly what i am scared of...

Ritmo 01-05-2013 07:02 PM
The Feb edition of TAS has a very positive review of the CP-800. Have not read it in detail yet but the tone of the comments in the review is good.

mbovaird 01-05-2013 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ritmo (Post 421571)
The Feb edition of TAS has a very positive review of the CP-800. Have not read it in detail yet but the tone of the comments in the review is good.
I love mine!! When I AB it to my Mcintosh C1000C/P - neither my friend or I could hear a difference. Now, the C1000T was another story. That preamp is a gem. I'm using my CP-800 in my Family Room system and it works perfectly and sounds great. I firmly believe current Classe gear is some of the best gear on the market (if you ignore price as a measure of performance and use your ears!) I prefer it to most of the other gear I've had in my system (bettered only by my Pass/ARC magical combo) and love its neutrality and speed. It makes for hours of fun, fatigue free listening without any coloration and super dark backgrounds. My CA-2300 and CP-800 allow me to really hear what my SF Mementos can sound like - without coloration. As a side, I see that John Atkinson uses the CA-M600's and CP-800 as his reference gear. I look forward to reading the TAS review. Thanks for sharing Mike.

Ritmo 01-05-2013 07:22 PM
My pleasure Mike! :thumbsup:

BlueFox 01-06-2013 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Christmas72 (Post 420496)
right now cp-800 is almost two years old now.maybe is time for me to move on?

I thought this was just released in 2012.

fourxmotion 01-06-2013 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueFox (Post 421733)
I thought this was just released in 2012.
Classe announced the unit in Sept 2010 and I got mine in Feb 2011 when it was actually released.

Christmas72 01-06-2013 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird (Post 421574)
I love mine!! When I AB it to my Mcintosh C1000C/P - neither my friend or I could hear a difference. Now, the C1000T was another story. That preamp is a gem. I'm using my CP-800 in my Family Room system and it works perfectly and sounds great. I firmly believe current Classe gear is some of the best gear on the market (if you ignore price as a measure of performance and use your ears!) I prefer it to most of the other gear I've had in my system (bettered only by my Pass/ARC magical combo) and love its neutrality and speed. It makes for hours of fun, fatigue free listening without any coloration and super dark backgrounds. My CA-2300 and CP-800 allow me to really hear what my SF Mementos can sound like - without coloration. As a side, I see that John Atkinson uses the CA-M600's and CP-800 as his reference gear. I look forward to reading the TAS review. Thanks for sharing Mike.
I can't agree more.
I am fully satisfied with my cp-800-ca-2300-b&w 802 Diamond.really satisfied!
As said i am only disappointed about the firmware update. I have a lot of 24/192 tracks and lately I became a little curious to try something new like a mcintosh pre and ampli combination being fed from a full 24/192 dac like the mcd-1100.

BlueFox 01-06-2013 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fourxmotion (Post 421736)
Classe announced the unit in Sept 2010 and I got mine in Feb 2011 when it was actually released.
That's interesting. For some reason I had the impression this is a relatively new piece of gear. Obviously, I am new to following Classe. I agree that after two years the initial bugs should be fixed.

Christmas72 01-06-2013 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueFox (Post 421762)
That's interesting. For some reason I had the impression this is a relatively new piece of gear. Obviously, I am new to following Classe. I agree that after two years the initial bugs should be fixed.
There are no bugs.software update should provide improvements like 24/192 and ethernet functionalities (DLNA, airplay...).

mbovaird 01-06-2013 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueFox (Post 421762)

That's interesting. For some reason I had the impression this is a relatively new piece of gear. Obviously, I am new to following Classe. I agree that after two years the initial bugs should be fixed.
Let me clarify - there are no bugs. It works as advertised. What's lacking is the USB actually being able to handle 24/192 files natively. Right now, it CAN play 24/192 files at 24/96 via USB and you don't need to go out and buy a USB to SPDIF converter. The other digital inputs are all natively 24/192 - so no issues there. Other new features are coming too - perhaps as a peace offering for the far too slow delay on the USB upgrade! :D All in all, feature wise, sound wise, I feel it's unbeatable at multiples of its price point.

Christmas72 01-06-2013 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mbovaird (Post 421824)
Other new features are coming too - perhaps as a peace offering for the far too slow delay on the USB upgrade!
Is there something you know that maybe you want to share with us??:lurk:


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